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    cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/60420469

    France’s largest employers' federation, Medef, swiftly backed Macron’s position.

    “The world is reorganising,” said Medef president Patrick Martin, who described the situation as “very serious”. He said France and Europe must now focus on competitiveness and cutting back regulation as global trade tensions rise.

    Business group France Industrie echoed the call for action.

    Its president, Alexandre Saubot, urged French manufacturers to consider suspending US investments as a show of strength. “To negotiate from a position of strength, we have to be ready to use all the levers at our disposal,” he said.

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    I think France is in the best position to lead in these new times, as they retained more economic and strategic independence compared to for example Germany. Time to learn french.

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      I think France is in the best position to lead in these new times, as they retained more economic and strategic independence compared to for example Germany. Time to learn french.

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      I said this in my other comment but in indirect way - I would love for some French lemmings to chime in and describe how they portray their president. Because what I see from the perspective of an outsider- he looks like a great leader with unmatched opportunity to became one due to its country strength and position.

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        I said this in my other comment but in indirect way - I would love for some French lemmings to chime in and describe how they portray their president. Because what I see from the perspective of an outsider- he looks like a great leader with unmatched opportunity to became one due to its country strength and position.

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        Well, in my opinion, its because he doesnt really respect the people. For instance, during legislative election for the new Assemblée Génerale, the left union won, by a weak margin they still had the higher proportion of seats.
        And then, he decided to not choose to give the seat of First Minister to the left, but instead, to wait for many weeks, only to give it at the end to the right political party, who came out fourth and was a minority compared to Left Union/Macron's "centrist" party/Far Right. Not having a government for all that time sure helped the country. Also why did he even abolish the Assemlée when far right just won the European elections in France? It's like he wanted them to win. He got in because it was him or far right, and he does things like that.

        He also favors right politics like uniforms at school and mandatory military service for all young adults. Retirement was pushed to the age of 64 under his name, public schools and hospitals are in pain and nothing is done to fix it like raising salaries for teachers, instead billions lost to please old minds with uniforms. Some of his minister support far right ideas such as immigration or are incompetent at their jobs.

        There are other things, but to me, I do not really like how the democracy feels more like an authoritarian government where the politicians are just forcing their way through unpopular decision that doesn't solve issues the country is having. And when protests happen, the police just represses them. When left is protesting, its banned but when far right is protesting, somehow its allowed.

        He also opens the door to the far right winning with how his ministers are constantly bashing the left and praising the right. Media being owned by a billionaire and spreading their propaganda online isnt helping also.

        He makes bad decisions to solve the economy and really really doesnt want to tax the rich, so, people have to work more.

        I voted for him in 2022 personally because he was the only one that wanted to support Ukraine, everyone else felt like they'd be bending their knees to Russia. If helping Ukraine wasn't in the equation, things could have been different, I suppose.

        All of that is but my opinion, of course, I can't say how other feels on Macron in France and why they hate him.

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          Well, in my opinion, its because he doesnt really respect the people. For instance, during legislative election for the new Assemblée Génerale, the left union won, by a weak margin they still had the higher proportion of seats.
          And then, he decided to not choose to give the seat of First Minister to the left, but instead, to wait for many weeks, only to give it at the end to the right political party, who came out fourth and was a minority compared to Left Union/Macron's "centrist" party/Far Right. Not having a government for all that time sure helped the country. Also why did he even abolish the Assemlée when far right just won the European elections in France? It's like he wanted them to win. He got in because it was him or far right, and he does things like that.

          He also favors right politics like uniforms at school and mandatory military service for all young adults. Retirement was pushed to the age of 64 under his name, public schools and hospitals are in pain and nothing is done to fix it like raising salaries for teachers, instead billions lost to please old minds with uniforms. Some of his minister support far right ideas such as immigration or are incompetent at their jobs.

          There are other things, but to me, I do not really like how the democracy feels more like an authoritarian government where the politicians are just forcing their way through unpopular decision that doesn't solve issues the country is having. And when protests happen, the police just represses them. When left is protesting, its banned but when far right is protesting, somehow its allowed.

          He also opens the door to the far right winning with how his ministers are constantly bashing the left and praising the right. Media being owned by a billionaire and spreading their propaganda online isnt helping also.

          He makes bad decisions to solve the economy and really really doesnt want to tax the rich, so, people have to work more.

          I voted for him in 2022 personally because he was the only one that wanted to support Ukraine, everyone else felt like they'd be bending their knees to Russia. If helping Ukraine wasn't in the equation, things could have been different, I suppose.

          All of that is but my opinion, of course, I can't say how other feels on Macron in France and why they hate him.

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          Thank you. And sorry for the dumbass that downvoted you (the guy just spend a few minutes of his life writing this, you do not have to agree with him to appreciate the effort…)

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            Thank you. And sorry for the dumbass that downvoted you (the guy just spend a few minutes of his life writing this, you do not have to agree with him to appreciate the effort…)

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            I just want to add something right here:

            Retirement was pushed to the age of 64 under his name

            Macron did this unilaterally by twisting an emergency constitutional power so that he could bypass a vote from the Assembly/Senate.

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              I think France is in the best position to lead in these new times, as they retained more economic and strategic independence compared to for example Germany. Time to learn french.

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              the "urge" is just the first step I guess?

              That's been my experience with your mom, at least 🤷

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                I said this in my other comment but in indirect way - I would love for some French lemmings to chime in and describe how they portray their president. Because what I see from the perspective of an outsider- he looks like a great leader with unmatched opportunity to became one due to its country strength and position.

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                He's an asshole who pretends not being far right while doing everything to bring our government closer to authoritarianism

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                • magical_spark@jlai.luM [email protected]

                  Well, in my opinion, its because he doesnt really respect the people. For instance, during legislative election for the new Assemblée Génerale, the left union won, by a weak margin they still had the higher proportion of seats.
                  And then, he decided to not choose to give the seat of First Minister to the left, but instead, to wait for many weeks, only to give it at the end to the right political party, who came out fourth and was a minority compared to Left Union/Macron's "centrist" party/Far Right. Not having a government for all that time sure helped the country. Also why did he even abolish the Assemlée when far right just won the European elections in France? It's like he wanted them to win. He got in because it was him or far right, and he does things like that.

                  He also favors right politics like uniforms at school and mandatory military service for all young adults. Retirement was pushed to the age of 64 under his name, public schools and hospitals are in pain and nothing is done to fix it like raising salaries for teachers, instead billions lost to please old minds with uniforms. Some of his minister support far right ideas such as immigration or are incompetent at their jobs.

                  There are other things, but to me, I do not really like how the democracy feels more like an authoritarian government where the politicians are just forcing their way through unpopular decision that doesn't solve issues the country is having. And when protests happen, the police just represses them. When left is protesting, its banned but when far right is protesting, somehow its allowed.

                  He also opens the door to the far right winning with how his ministers are constantly bashing the left and praising the right. Media being owned by a billionaire and spreading their propaganda online isnt helping also.

                  He makes bad decisions to solve the economy and really really doesnt want to tax the rich, so, people have to work more.

                  I voted for him in 2022 personally because he was the only one that wanted to support Ukraine, everyone else felt like they'd be bending their knees to Russia. If helping Ukraine wasn't in the equation, things could have been different, I suppose.

                  All of that is but my opinion, of course, I can't say how other feels on Macron in France and why they hate him.

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                  I voted for him in 2022 personally because he was the only one that wanted to support Ukraine, everyone else felt like they’d be bending their knees to Russia.

                  Sounds like you got brainwashed in voting him

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                    Thank you. And sorry for the dumbass that downvoted you (the guy just spend a few minutes of his life writing this, you do not have to agree with him to appreciate the effort…)

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                    I personally downvoted because making a post about how bad he is only to conclude that he got voted doesn't sound much smart.

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                      I voted for him in 2022 personally because he was the only one that wanted to support Ukraine, everyone else felt like they’d be bending their knees to Russia.

                      Sounds like you got brainwashed in voting him

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                      Not really, my vote was mostly because I cared about the situation in Ukraine, and having a president that would side with Putin or go against Ukraine by either doing far right stuff or making Ukraine surrender to Russia's peace conditions, is a negative for Europe.

                      Of course, if the situation repeats itself for 2027, now the priority would be more within France in itself than aiding Ukraine, but, one can hope the war ends before then.

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                        Not really, my vote was mostly because I cared about the situation in Ukraine, and having a president that would side with Putin or go against Ukraine by either doing far right stuff or making Ukraine surrender to Russia's peace conditions, is a negative for Europe.

                        Of course, if the situation repeats itself for 2027, now the priority would be more within France in itself than aiding Ukraine, but, one can hope the war ends before then.

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                        I smell something off again. As you said macron is a corrupted authoritarian leader who treat his people as shit. There are multiple pictures of him shaking hands and being friend with putin, netanyahu or dictators like bin salman, what makes you think he actually care about ukrainian people? You said the guy favors mandatory military service, he definitely not someone who wants peace (unless you believe the fairy tale that war is peace).

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