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    Islam is not a monolithic platonic form, it's the ideas of the people who call themselves Muslim. As people they deserve to be free from bigotry based on their innate characteristics. If you only allow for groups to be uplifted if they're perfect and free from sin, you will always be able to find fault and reason to continue oppression.

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      Respect is earned.

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        How exactly does mockery and ridicule help?

        I'd rather put energy in the education of those who can still listen, and the next generation.

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        put energy in the education of those who can still listen, and the next generation

        this strategy has catastrophically failed over the last 10 years, and here we are.

        do what you will. i will continue to paint them as every bit as ridiculous, stupid, gullible, and wrong that they are.

        fuck R voters.

        let me guess "well, they definitely won't vote D now!!"

        yea. that whole "voting" thing is over with. welcome to fascism, and don't forget to thank your racist inbred magahat neighbors for now endless opportunity to "educate" them while they laugh at you and throw everything you say out the window

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          Respect is earned.

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            Islam is not a monolithic platonic form, it's the ideas of the people who call themselves Muslim. As people they deserve to be free from bigotry based on their innate characteristics. If you only allow for groups to be uplifted if they're perfect and free from sin, you will always be able to find fault and reason to continue oppression.

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              Do you think I'm homophobic? You're not making an argument, you're just brandishing Islamophobia as if it will accomplish something.

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                Do you think I'm homophobic? You're not making an argument, you're just brandishing Islamophobia as if it will accomplish something.

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                  put energy in the education of those who can still listen, and the next generation

                  this strategy has catastrophically failed over the last 10 years, and here we are.

                  do what you will. i will continue to paint them as every bit as ridiculous, stupid, gullible, and wrong that they are.

                  fuck R voters.

                  let me guess "well, they definitely won't vote D now!!"

                  yea. that whole "voting" thing is over with. welcome to fascism, and don't forget to thank your racist inbred magahat neighbors for now endless opportunity to "educate" them while they laugh at you and throw everything you say out the window

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                  Do it if you want to, but I feel like it mostly a feel good activity rather than something effective.

                  For me the only sustainable and worthy solution is massively reinvesting in public education. It's the only way to lift a country's average education equally.

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                    and “you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar”

                    Liberals need to ask why the fuck their leaders are so keen on catching fascist flies, but so nakedly hostile to LGBTQ / Muslim / College Debtor / Migrant Laborer / M4A voters.

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                    Because America is mostly a bunch of shit-eating flies and you don't win elections without them.

                    Because people are terrible.

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                      You have to compete with the content they produce regardless. Speaking of Brandolini's law, it's much, much less effort to ridicule something than it is to factually debunk it.

                      Last I heard, masculinism is growing among them.

                      Yeah, because... masculinism is "cool" and "anti-lame." So it should be mocked.

                      It's really not that hard to see. When conservatives rage against "woke pussies" or whatever, they're clearly rejecting some kind of perceived weakness. So when you mock them, and you damage their perception of strength, yeah, they flop around like fish gasping for air.

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                      You have to compete with the content they produce regardless.

                      No, you can educate people from the start so they are able to weed out information by themselves.
                      Isn't it what you do? You are educated so you are able to detect the far right bullshit.
                      Or are you really watching a bigger amount of content that ridicule this view in order to counter its effect?

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                        https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3lrcakcyeps2z

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                        This is the time you decide whether the Civil War was just about about keeping the country united to maintain its power or whether it was about ending slavery (which it didn't, but that's another point). It's clear that keeping the country together only helped maintain US power and influence internationally, because the assholes who rebelled to protect slavery have kept their agenda and are clearly in power now. It does not bode well when only the abuser is willing to stand up for themselves and their narcissism while the victim still thinks that if they are nice enough they will get anyone to see the error of their ways. Are democrats just willing to tolerate abuse? Is there nothing they would secede from, even a tyrant?

                        Right now, some GOP members are playing a charade of fighting the administration on side issues like Ukraine. Make no mistake, they are still complicit with a Trump admin, and midterms will be a charade as well.

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                          Iraq, 1960, before US operations in the region during the Cold War:

                          Muslim extremism is a direct result of US intervention in the Middle East to use countries in the region to fight a proxy war against the spread of communism. The CIA had a years-long operation where they literally air-dropped extremist Muslim propaganda into the region to radicalize the population.

                          We destroyed the largest democracy in the region and installed a dictator at the behest of British Petroleum (BP) because they elected a man who was going to kick them out and nationalize the industry due to the horrible pay and working conditions they forced on the country. Al-Qaeda started as CIA-backed resistance fighters known as the Mujahideen. The list of issues created by European and American meddling in the region is miles long - neo-colonialism at work.

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                            This is the time you decide whether the Civil War was just about about keeping the country united to maintain its power or whether it was about ending slavery (which it didn't, but that's another point). It's clear that keeping the country together only helped maintain US power and influence internationally, because the assholes who rebelled to protect slavery have kept their agenda and are clearly in power now. It does not bode well when only the abuser is willing to stand up for themselves and their narcissism while the victim still thinks that if they are nice enough they will get anyone to see the error of their ways. Are democrats just willing to tolerate abuse? Is there nothing they would secede from, even a tyrant?

                            Right now, some GOP members are playing a charade of fighting the administration on side issues like Ukraine. Make no mistake, they are still complicit with a Trump admin, and midterms will be a charade as well.

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                            lol you think Democrats lead the revolution.

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                              Iraq, 1960, before US operations in the region during the Cold War:

                              Muslim extremism is a direct result of US intervention in the Middle East to use countries in the region to fight a proxy war against the spread of communism. The CIA had a years-long operation where they literally air-dropped extremist Muslim propaganda into the region to radicalize the population.

                              We destroyed the largest democracy in the region and installed a dictator at the behest of British Petroleum (BP) because they elected a man who was going to kick them out and nationalize the industry due to the horrible pay and working conditions they forced on the country. Al-Qaeda started as CIA-backed resistance fighters known as the Mujahideen. The list of issues created by European and American meddling in the region is miles long - neo-colonialism at work.

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                                lol you think Democrats lead the revolution.

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                                Lol you didn't pay attention in history

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                                  You have to compete with the content they produce regardless.

                                  No, you can educate people from the start so they are able to weed out information by themselves.
                                  Isn't it what you do? You are educated so you are able to detect the far right bullshit.
                                  Or are you really watching a bigger amount of content that ridicule this view in order to counter its effect?

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                                  I'm gonna be honest: you can't. Education is dry, and dull, and boring, and exactly the kind of lame bullshit I'm talking about. Your strategy is the strategy of nerds and losers.

                                  It's not that it's not worth doing. You are correct that education was my vaccine against the far right. But no one is listening. If you're not drumming up energy, social momentum, no one is paying attention to you. Even people who agree with you are not really getting involved.

                                  You need charisma. Mockery not only damages the rizz of your opponents, exposing them to be the rizzless, softboy soy-drinkers they always were, it also bolsters your own. It gets the crowd jumping and doing stadium waves and shit. I don't know how else to say this, but people like displays of power. That is legit the only way fascists even win.

                                  Long term, it would be great to educate these fickle-as-the-wind dipshits as I was, but that takes time. And, they have to already like you. If they don't like you, they just won't listen.

                                  If you want to move populations, you need to wield the tools of social power. You cannot depend on the truth to do it for you.

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                                    the founding fathers of the US owned slaves and fucked them. then enslaved their own children. are you going to denounce them as strongly? No?

                                    Go fuck yourself you hate filled moron

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                                      And those countries are a true representation of the people? How many peoples democracies are in the middle east? And why are there so little, who keeps providing the initial armaments for groups like ISIL, Al-qaeda the taliban and so on? Must be the most homophobic country on earth! Another fun fact, a lot if not all, the homophobic sentiment got exported during british or french colonisation.

                                      As for "acceptance or religion": refuse-the-question

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                                        I'm gonna be honest: you can't. Education is dry, and dull, and boring, and exactly the kind of lame bullshit I'm talking about. Your strategy is the strategy of nerds and losers.

                                        It's not that it's not worth doing. You are correct that education was my vaccine against the far right. But no one is listening. If you're not drumming up energy, social momentum, no one is paying attention to you. Even people who agree with you are not really getting involved.

                                        You need charisma. Mockery not only damages the rizz of your opponents, exposing them to be the rizzless, softboy soy-drinkers they always were, it also bolsters your own. It gets the crowd jumping and doing stadium waves and shit. I don't know how else to say this, but people like displays of power. That is legit the only way fascists even win.

                                        Long term, it would be great to educate these fickle-as-the-wind dipshits as I was, but that takes time. And, they have to already like you. If they don't like you, they just won't listen.

                                        If you want to move populations, you need to wield the tools of social power. You cannot depend on the truth to do it for you.

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                                        Do you realize you are using similar arguments as the far right / masculinist by mentioning nerds, losers, mockery, charisma, soft boys, soy drinkers, display of power?

                                        I said before I'm considering those who may still listen and the next generation. I know you can't change the current maga-like with public education.

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                                          Because America is mostly a bunch of shit-eating flies and you don't win elections without them.

                                          Because people are terrible.

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                                          Weird, I keep hearing that the dems lost because of progressives and leftists sitting out over Gaza. But I guess the libs would rather lose and fail again at trying to get 'centrists' than appease that apparently pivotal electoral bloc.

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