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Time to bash Americans again

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  • B [email protected]

    It's not JUST the guns tbh. Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don't shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels and the guns are just adding extra fuel and oxygen to a forest fire.

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    And until our societal issues are solved, the guns need to go back into Pandora's box.

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      If I must

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      • M [email protected]

        eh.. in my country firearms are illegal, yet somewhat available.
        heavy explosives/fireworks and WW2 grenades on the other hand.. plentiful

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        The above chap hit the nail on the head in terms of the UK.

        Sure, hardcore criminals can get their hands on a gun, but the sort of people who want to cause trouble at a school certainly don't.

        I went to one of the worst schools in the country and while some of our students did occasionally murder people out in their private lives (I lived in the biggest shit hole in the country - the government even said so), in the school itself the worst thing I ever saw was a pupil throwing a chair at a teacher. And that was incredibly rare and shocking.

        A student did arson one of the maths rooms too but that was over the weekend when nobody was there. They really hated that teacher haha. We had to do the rest of the year's maths lessons in the Hall. So weird.

        But ya, that's all the extreme cases, and they're nowhere remotely near "gun" territory. That's just insanity. I never felt unsafe in a school.

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          Nasty little fuckers.

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          There was an incident in Dundee recently that far-right knuckle-draggers (like emerald mine nepo-baby Elon Musk) tried to pass off as a 12 year old schoolgirl pulling a knife and fighting off an immigrant rapist, and it turns out she was just tooled up and threatening random strangers.

          https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/truth-or-fake/20250901-no-this-scottish-schoolgirl-wasn-t-brandishing-weapons-to-protect-herself-from-migrants

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          • E [email protected]

            Did they fall off?

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            A easy target without it's strike group.

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            • sexy_peach@feddit.orgS [email protected]

              Europe has gangs and guns and whatnot. But people have more to lose I think. Something like that. Better education maybe?

              Could be way better here as well

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              Every country have criminals and guns. The difference is how available they are to the general public. And what type of guns.

              Anyone in the US that isn't a convicted felon can buy a handgun as soon as they turn 21. And there are very few laws on how you're required to store them.

              Compared to Europe where it's incredibly rare for an average citizen to have access to a handgun.

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                Why is this a picture of grass?

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                  Have you heard of "induced demand" courtesy of the FuckCars community?

                  Well, the same applies to violence.

                  If you have police on campus people subconsciously expect violence. It's a self-fullfilling prophecy. The more security theatre you add, the more actual security you'll need.

                  Normalizing shootings by giving them such media attention also doesn't help, if the prospective shooter craves it. Neither does the fact that it occupies a large part of the US public consciousness.

                  Some kids do it because others have already, and because school shootings are such a hot media topic.

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                    Shots fired

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                    • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zoneH [email protected]

                      That's an exarregation, right?

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                      I don't think so. It is exactly like that in France.

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                      • D [email protected]

                        I’m sorry you have to go through that bro.

                        What I learnt about bullies is once you smack them in the face most of them will think twice before bullying you again.

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                        Bullying is often in the form of low-level violence combined with verbal and other forms of harassment committed repeatedly by folks who enjoy it.

                        There is little hope of beating it at the same level of intensity and for reasons of culture and not prosecuting thousands of kids adults avoid dealing with low intensity harm between kids even when over time it is intolerable.
                        Beating up the bully requires one to be capable of such when the bully may be larger and physically imposing and part of a group then not getting treated as the guilty party afterward for being the one who actually caused real harm as if the harm of years of harassment aren't real.

                        Its great your solution worked for you but for lots it would mean bully and friends get to beat you without consequence and you get in trouble reinforcing the game.

                        Its quite frankly on average a bs solution. The actual one is to pay attention to who is a pos and kick the 1% worst pos to shit schools so 99% can learn in peace.

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                        • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zoneH [email protected]

                          That's an exarregation, right?

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                          Yeah, a UK friend of mine mentioned that it is meant to prevent kids from playing hooky (ditch school). Meanwhile in Canada, we're free range children.

                          It does probably depend on the school location.

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                          • V [email protected]

                            Why would you move to the Netherlands if you are MAGA? Isn't your country so much greater again now? You ellected your king and then you left?

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                            laughs in Dutch politics

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                              Bullying is often in the form of low-level violence combined with verbal and other forms of harassment committed repeatedly by folks who enjoy it.

                              There is little hope of beating it at the same level of intensity and for reasons of culture and not prosecuting thousands of kids adults avoid dealing with low intensity harm between kids even when over time it is intolerable.
                              Beating up the bully requires one to be capable of such when the bully may be larger and physically imposing and part of a group then not getting treated as the guilty party afterward for being the one who actually caused real harm as if the harm of years of harassment aren't real.

                              Its great your solution worked for you but for lots it would mean bully and friends get to beat you without consequence and you get in trouble reinforcing the game.

                              Its quite frankly on average a bs solution. The actual one is to pay attention to who is a pos and kick the 1% worst pos to shit schools so 99% can learn in peace.

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                              Perhaps I should have highlighted that it’s not a viable option for everybody.

                              I would say that your solution is also pretty shitty. As bad as bullies are many of them are doing because either they’re getting bullied / hit at home and so they act out in this way or have other issues.

                              I don’t think sticking them all together is the solution, we should be trying to understand why someone is doing that and see if we can make positive changes. When I say we I mean the education system.

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                                As a gun owner in USA, I fucking hate gun culture.

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                                honest question: then why do you own one?
                                I get self defense, of course, but doesn't the fact of owning a firearm make you part of gun culture?
                                or am I missing something?

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                                • C [email protected]

                                  That's why I never tell anyone outside of my immediate family that I own a firearm. Because some weird fucking people in America exist. And they are gun nuts.

                                  No bro, I don't want to talk about your 300 blackout how you wish someone would bust into your house so you can shoot them.

                                  I keep my shit in my safe, that's it. It's not a personality.

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                                  how do you use it in a home invasion in the middle of the night if it's locked up and unloaded?

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    Ah but is that not something they opt to do because they feel safe? In comparison, American gun nuts would never do that, they don’t feel safe without their guns.

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                                    all 37 of them

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      metal detectors and xray scanning of backpacks made me feel like I was going to prison lol

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                                      I think the most security I ever had was the gates being locked between opening and closing times. This was during primary school. Britain sucks but at least it's not America.

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                                        The truth hurts.

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                                        • robocall@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                          Why is this a picture of grass?

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                                          That's where the fence goes

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