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Mods react as Reddit kicks some of them out again: “This will break the site”

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  • S [email protected]

    True, but Reddit let this problem fester for a long time.

    What's interesting to me here regarding this, is Reddits current preparation timescale. This isn't going to be enforced until March 31st, 2026. This tells me that Reddit would have been unprepared for a complete mass-walkout of community moderators during the 2023 Reddit API strikes. A large chunk of Reddit during that period was genuinely inaccessible. But after a few token gestures and a few examples made of some especially rebellious mod-teams, most of the striking moderators returned.

    A huge opportunity was missed by people running major communities to functionally degrade Reddit in at least the medium-term as a website. You can't just hastily promote random people to replace moderators Reddit is either forced to remove or who leave voluntarily. The average person is likely too lazy, too arbitrary and too corrupt to effectively oversee communities of notable sizes.

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    actually, thier purges since the election was too effective, and removed so much users and mods by banning them. plus the shadowbans have dramatically increased, because they made the filters to sensitive to "potential bots/spammers).
    50/50 irl users/bots. at least right now, its reddit is filled with charlie kirk propaganda(negative and positive), with a little hint of luigi.

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      I was on one of those “especially rebellious mod-teams”. We were even interviewed by Ars Technica about it all at the time.

      On advice of a majority of our users, we took our sub offline and kept it that way until Reddit booted us as mods. Honestly, this was the outcome I was expecting — hell, I was pretty open about goading them into it. What was the alternative — to cave to the platform that was abusing us so I could keep working for them for free?

      That’s the part I didn’t understand about my fellow mods from other subs. Many of them caved pretty quickly. Their identities seemed to be so tied up in being a Reddit mod that they couldn’t let it go, even though the relationship was obviously very unequal. Too many other people stood up after witnessing the mod abuse to take over from those who got the boot, just asking for the Reddit boot to be applied to their necks instead.

      Well, I wish all the mods the kind of treatment they forgave/ignored the last time around.

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      at least you wernt like that anti-work mod that went ON FOX, that actually drew negative attention to the site.

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      • S [email protected]

        There's a saying in my language that fits this situation perfectly: "Tja."

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        "Ja mai"

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        • F [email protected]

          The quality of reddit took a massive hit after the strike and never recovered.

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          it took another one from the series of purges this year too. i think the purges did alot more damage than reddit is letting on. since they were doing it for months on end, i was seeing a real decrease in users posting, and mostly it was replaced by bot posting.

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          • A [email protected]

            Not really. The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience. This is not about enforcing subreddit rules its about subreddit mods pushing an agenda across their subs and pushing sponsored posts outsides reddits ad program.

            Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame

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            it allows them to institute changes ordered by the admins more effectively, complicitly. hard to do it if 500+ subs had thier own mod team, instead of just 92.

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              One the one hand I can understand the issue that one person wielding mod power in many subs is a problem, especially if that mod is prone to abuse of the mod position.

              On the other hand, some subs, especially smaller ones, might go modless.

              What I would have done differently is that I would not align this rule on the number of subs alone. The size of a sub should also be a factor, as well as overall number of mods in those groups. A good solution would be not as easy as what they propose.

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              • S [email protected]

                There's a saying in my language that fits this situation perfectly: "Tja."

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                In my language we also have a saying: "nyeeerrrrrrr"

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                  It limits mods to 5 subs with over 100,000 monthly visits it seems reasonable to limit the mods reach they all have back deals going on to push agendas and ads it's pretty fucked.

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                  Yeah, I thought it actually may be a rare Reddit W for 2 minutes, until I saw reddit admins will grant exceptions. So likely, mods that push reddits agendas will stay while the uncooperative ones will have to go.

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                    One the one hand I can understand the issue that one person wielding mod power in many subs is a problem, especially if that mod is prone to abuse of the mod position.

                    On the other hand, some subs, especially smaller ones, might go modless.

                    What I would have done differently is that I would not align this rule on the number of subs alone. The size of a sub should also be a factor, as well as overall number of mods in those groups. A good solution would be not as easy as what they propose.

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                    Honestly just get rid of the mods.

                    These days some AI bot instructed on the sub rules would probably do a much better job. Nd not be a power hungry bitch

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                      Funny to hear from the new mods that replaced their predecessors during the protest. Now it's their turn to be replaced

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                      • T [email protected]

                        One the one hand I can understand the issue that one person wielding mod power in many subs is a problem, especially if that mod is prone to abuse of the mod position.

                        On the other hand, some subs, especially smaller ones, might go modless.

                        What I would have done differently is that I would not align this rule on the number of subs alone. The size of a sub should also be a factor, as well as overall number of mods in those groups. A good solution would be not as easy as what they propose.

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                        moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.

                        I mean, that's clearly a rule that considers size of sub a factor, so, um, what?

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                          There's a saying in my language that fits this situation perfectly: "Tja."

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                          https://old.reddit.com/r/tja/

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                            Honestly just get rid of the mods.

                            These days some AI bot instructed on the sub rules would probably do a much better job. Nd not be a power hungry bitch

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                            What are you talking about? We've had artificial power hungry bitch technology for years

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                              All power to the owners. But go on suckers. Keep pretending you have power as mods.

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                                Further, subreddits will stop displaying subscriber counts and instead show their “unique number of unique visitors over the last seven days, based on a rolling 28-day average,” Reddit’s rep said. Notably, old.reddit.com will not get these new stats but will still lose subscriber counts.

                                That's hilarious
                                Sucks to suck

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                                hiding the bot numbers, no doubt, and shielding bots comment history as well.

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                                • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                                  Speaking as a former top 1%er redditor... figuring out how to do it and being willing to do it are two completely different things.

                                  Life would be so much easier if I lacked basic human ethics. 🙂

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                                  See? And now you can wear that "former" as a badge of honor.

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                                  • G [email protected]

                                    What kind of meat stick would do this? I still just literally cannot understand why someone would put themself in this position, no matter how entrenched into their parents basement they are, or how bad they smell.

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                                    There's a robust reddit advertising ecosystem that exists. While much of that starts with standard "buy an ad that doesn't scream that its an ad" stuff, things like doing an AMA or engaging with users or trying to co-opt user content are all in the mix.

                                    Mods who can approve posts from advertising accounts, block or remove criticism, and even block posts from competitors can gatekeep messaging could, if they were dickbags, stand to make a decent amount of money for it if all the communications comes from sidechannels. /r/hailcorportate always sot of found the line between astroturf advertising and genuine brand worship by idiots, and it's intentionally messy so it's hard to tell what's what.

                                    Even buying and selling of old accounts is a thing. Buying and selling of upvotes from bot accounts, etc. The whole platform is manipulated unless it's a small niche sub.

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                                      I have negative respect for mods at this point.

                                      I've seen too much unchecked mod abuse to ever take their decisions seriously again.

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                                        Hey, they chose to offer free labor for a company that has proven time and time again to not give a crap about the mods or the users. I get why they are complaining but I at least hope that they aren’t surprised or expect that their complaints will do anything.

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                                          There's a saying in my language that fits this situation perfectly: "Tja."

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