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John Oliver promoted alternatives to big tech in last night's episode, including Mastodon and Pixelfed

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  • dojan@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

    I’m wondering this too People are hyped about bluesky but it is the same corpo bullshit that Twitter is. I mean it is literally by the same dude. Why fold?,

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    Didnt Dorsey already walk from it and gave the reason that it is headed the same way twitter is. Bluesky is being pushed by capitalists because it is a for profit company just like twitter and facebook.

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      Exactly! All a person has to do is to look around - the right buys up all popular media platforms and converts them to propaganda outlets.

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      https://www.businessinsider.com/x-competitor-bluesky-valuation-new-funding-round-2025-1

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        Bluesky will be the next Twitter. Just give it some time

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        https://www.piratewires.com/p/interview-with-jack-dorsey-mike-solana

        thats how its creator feels too.

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          Err.. what?

          Care to explain what that 'other interpretation' is?

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          You are taking "replace Twitter" as an appellation, when in reality it was intended as a condemnation.

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          • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

            Talk to John Oliver then.

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            There are plenty of naive people on here also shilling bluesky over Mastodon.

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              There are plenty of naive people on here also shilling bluesky over Mastodon.

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              Over or in addition to? I haven't seen anyone say BlueSky over Mastodon.

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              • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                Over or in addition to? I haven't seen anyone say BlueSky over Mastodon.

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                Get your eyes checked.

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                • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                  What about the dragon type?

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                  That's all wyverns. Reddit is wrong.

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                    Get your eyes checked.

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                    For fuck's sake, no need to say ableist shit like that. I'm just saying I haven't seen it, not that 100% hasn't happened.

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                      Bluesky will be the next Twitter. Just give it some time

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                      mastodon is already the next twitter, bluesky is just a direct copy of it with nothing keeping it from going the same way. mastodon is open source (can't be corpoed), federated (can talk to other platforms/instances so being on a small one doesn't hurt anything), and most importantly, uses a protocol that doesn't make self-hosting impossible due to storage requirements.

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                      • dojan@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                        I’m wondering this too People are hyped about bluesky but it is the same corpo bullshit that Twitter is. I mean it is literally by the same dude. Why fold?,

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                        Bizarre that you and that other guy thought "will become the next Twitter" was some sort of praise. It's not.

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                          Content moderation primarily serves advertisers

                          I'm lost, here. Do you not think fighting toxicity and hate speech is a valid and important function of moderation that's just as much or more for the sake of the people as it might be for advertisers?

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                          I think that it's just words & images on a screen that we could easily ignore like people did before, and people are indulging a grandiose conceit by thinking that moderation is that important or serves any greater cause than the interests of moderators.
                          On social media that seems to be to serve the consumers, by which I mean the advertisers & commercial interests who pay for the attention of users.
                          While the old internet approach of ignoring, gawking at the freakshow, or ridiculing/flaming toxic & hateful shit worked fine then resulting in many people disengaging, ragequitting, or going outside to do something better, that's not great for advertisers protecting their brand & wanting to keep people pliant & unchallenged as they stay engaged in their uncritical filter bubbles & echo chambers.

                          With old internet, safety didn't wasn't internet nanny, thought police shit, and stop burning my virgin eyes & ears.
                          It was an anonymous handle, not revealing personally identifying information (a/s/l?), not falling for scams & giving out payment information (unless you're into that kinky shit).
                          Glad to see newer social media returning to some of that.

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                          • jacksonlamb@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                            Bizarre that you and that other guy thought "will become the next Twitter" was some sort of praise. It's not.

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                            I think it's more bizarre that you think "same corpo bullshit that Twitter is" is some kind of praise.

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                            • dojan@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                              I think it's more bizarre that you think "same corpo bullshit that Twitter is" is some kind of praise.

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                              If you don't agree with the person above you, maybe don't start your comment with

                              I'm wondering this too.

                              Accusing people of being shills for commenting that bluesky is going to become (shitty) like twitter is out of pocket.

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                              • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                                If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                                Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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                                CIA. A rehash of the crypto ag strategy

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                                  I think that it's just words & images on a screen that we could easily ignore like people did before, and people are indulging a grandiose conceit by thinking that moderation is that important or serves any greater cause than the interests of moderators.
                                  On social media that seems to be to serve the consumers, by which I mean the advertisers & commercial interests who pay for the attention of users.
                                  While the old internet approach of ignoring, gawking at the freakshow, or ridiculing/flaming toxic & hateful shit worked fine then resulting in many people disengaging, ragequitting, or going outside to do something better, that's not great for advertisers protecting their brand & wanting to keep people pliant & unchallenged as they stay engaged in their uncritical filter bubbles & echo chambers.

                                  With old internet, safety didn't wasn't internet nanny, thought police shit, and stop burning my virgin eyes & ears.
                                  It was an anonymous handle, not revealing personally identifying information (a/s/l?), not falling for scams & giving out payment information (unless you're into that kinky shit).
                                  Glad to see newer social media returning to some of that.

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                                  Toxicity doesn't "work fine," it's contagious and destructive. For projects, it slows progress. For communities in general, it reinforces bad behavior and pushes out newcomers, leading to more negative spaces, isolation, and stagnation, just off the top of my head. These were issues in older communities just as they are in modern ones.

                                  I don't see why we should abandon moderation for your benefit, at the expense of people who care.

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                                    Signal has been questionable for years. The way it's been pushed hardly, and how Moxie is emeritus, while much more questionable people are in control, doesn't fill one with confidence, and does ring some alarm bells. The relative proximity to some in the US establishment should be enough to do that. And the way some have been designating anyone who questions Signal as "Russian Propaganda" and immediately deflecting about how Telegram is bad, is even more curious.

                                    Frankly, I would trust something like Wire more than Signal. And there are other options too.

                                    Ideally, something with good security/privacy and is fully P2P would become popular. But those apps/networks never make it mainstream, which is unfortunate.

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                                    louder for the people in the back.

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                                    • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                                      He has the most posts and comments on the Lemmy activity scoreboard.

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                                      That's a lot

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        Signal has been questionable for years. The way it's been pushed hardly, and how Moxie is emeritus, while much more questionable people are in control, doesn't fill one with confidence, and does ring some alarm bells. The relative proximity to some in the US establishment should be enough to do that. And the way some have been designating anyone who questions Signal as "Russian Propaganda" and immediately deflecting about how Telegram is bad, is even more curious.

                                        Frankly, I would trust something like Wire more than Signal. And there are other options too.

                                        Ideally, something with good security/privacy and is fully P2P would become popular. But those apps/networks never make it mainstream, which is unfortunate.

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                                        There is a lot in here that I don't understand.

                                        1. What's wrong with Moxie? You mean it's weird he's an emeritus and not part of the board?
                                        2. What's "much more questionable" about the other people? From the descriptions on that page they all seem like standup people.
                                        3. Could you explain the "relative proximity to some in the US establishment" bit? That was too vague for me to grasp.
                                        4. "some have been designating anyone who questions Signal as 'Russian Propaganda' and immediately deflecting about how Telegram is bad, is even more curious." — Who has done this, you mean? And why exactly is it "curious"?

                                        Honestly, there was nothing at all in there that I understood, due to how vague it all was. I would appreciate it if you or someone could fill me in here, because it's important to know who's driving this thing, and if the platform can be trusted. I just want to not go by some vague rumors before I make up my mind.

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          Haha, yeah Cody has definitely made me cringe out of discomfort before. I haven't watched that guy in awhile! Appreciate the reminder. And Oliver can get close to that level too, for sure.

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                                          The recent Trump is going to hurt his voters video is pretty good.

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