Apparently, 12% of Technology Workers Believe that MacOS is based on Linux
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I know a guy who worked on Unix in the '80s and he is very clear that Linux / MacOS are just Unix.
Yes but no. Some folks are purists and feel that the actual code must derive from the original BSD/SysV code.
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Ah. Well, I have questions or comments I could make about the license. However, while I feel passionately about Unix and Linux and OSS in general, I don't think I have anything useful or interesting to add to the thread that hasn't already been said.
I wish you luck both with finding engaging conversation and with your licensing.
Ah. Well, I have questions or comments I could make about the license.
A little passive-aggressive of you
but I'm betting you could find answers to your questions if you looked through my comment history, starting about 10ish months ago. There was ALLOT of conversation about it at that time. You'd probably also see the kind of comments you'd make already made as well, saving you some time.
However, while I feel passionately about Unix and Linux and OSS in general, I donât think I have anything useful or interesting to add to the thread that hasnât already been said.
That's fine, I didn't mean to suggest that you personally (vs others) had to comment on the subject at hand, just that I wish I would only have to respond to comments of the subject at hand.
I wish you luck both with finding engaging conversation and with your licensing.
And may you have a GREAT day today!
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Ah. Well, I have questions or comments I could make about the license.
A little passive-aggressive of you
but I'm betting you could find answers to your questions if you looked through my comment history, starting about 10ish months ago. There was ALLOT of conversation about it at that time. You'd probably also see the kind of comments you'd make already made as well, saving you some time.
However, while I feel passionately about Unix and Linux and OSS in general, I donât think I have anything useful or interesting to add to the thread that hasnât already been said.
That's fine, I didn't mean to suggest that you personally (vs others) had to comment on the subject at hand, just that I wish I would only have to respond to comments of the subject at hand.
I wish you luck both with finding engaging conversation and with your licensing.
And may you have a GREAT day today!
~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~
A little passive-aggressive of you
That's a fair interpretation, but in fact I was trying to avoid the appearance of passive aggression by providing a reason for my exiting the conversation, rather than just bailing.
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A little passive-aggressive of you
That's a fair interpretation, but in fact I was trying to avoid the appearance of passive aggression by providing a reason for my exiting the conversation, rather than just bailing.
Well, I was saying that mostly in jest (hence the
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Take care.
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Isnt
zsh
the default macos shell?It is now, but it was
bash
before.But in any case once you start doing anything remotely advanced youâll find the individual command line utilities are wildly different between macOS and Linux. They seem (are?) much closer to FreeBSD than GNU utilities.
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Isnt
zsh
the default macos shell?It has been since 2019 but before that it was bash.
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Pft, everyone knows macOS is just a fancy DE on top of Hannah Montana Linux
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I wish it was then it may make sense. Every time I use the MacOS terminal. It's like an uncanny valley so similar but the more you look the more horrific it becomes. I can't even say it's Unix is the problem as freebsd makes complete sense.
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Does the lack of licensing in this comment mean it's okay to steal?
Nope, the opposite: in the absence of an explicit license, the default is "all rights reserved."
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macOS is UNIX, certified UNIX actually.
But I mean, if someone had the merest impression of macOS and was very familiar with Linux and never bothered to look any further then I'd understand. Maybe they only played around with macOS a little and saw the terminal app had bash and most all the familiar tools as on Linux. It's not hard to see why they might've thought it's Linux based.
I think 10% of people believe nearly anything. It's basically the rounding error for a survey.
Honestly, if you had asked me 10 minutes ago "Is MacOS based on Linux?" I would have gotten it wrong. But if you asked "Is MacOS based on UNIX or Linux?" I would have gotten it right.
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I wish it was then it may make sense. Every time I use the MacOS terminal. It's like an uncanny valley so similar but the more you look the more horrific it becomes. I can't even say it's Unix is the problem as freebsd makes complete sense.
macOS may not be FreeBSD, but it definitely is a BSD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Unix#/media/File:Unix_history-simple.svg
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It is now, but it was
bash
before.But in any case once you start doing anything remotely advanced youâll find the individual command line utilities are wildly different between macOS and Linux. They seem (are?) much closer to FreeBSD than GNU utilities.
Closer, maybe. Similar, not.
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macOS may not be FreeBSD, but it definitely is a BSD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Unix#/media/File:Unix_history-simple.svg
Also some part of NetBSD
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I wish it was then it may make sense. Every time I use the MacOS terminal. It's like an uncanny valley so similar but the more you look the more horrific it becomes. I can't even say it's Unix is the problem as freebsd makes complete sense.
Whatever else it may be, macos most certainly Is Unix unfortunately
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Who on earth actually cares? Those 12% are probably not really wrong either, apparently.
Can you fiddle up a weird black screen with lots of $ and # symbols? Yes, its a Unix and its probably Linux.
MacOS is odd because I say so and because most users of it will insist on their screen being darkened and brightened at the same time. I don't like black being rammed into my eyes.
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Except humans aren't apes. Humans are great apes.
Given the topic, this distinction is highly relevant.
Go back and read the first post in the chain again...
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It has been since 2019 but before that it was bash.
They switched to bash in 2003; in Mac OS X 10.0 through 10.2.x it was tcsh.
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Who on earth actually cares? Those 12% are probably not really wrong either, apparently.
Can you fiddle up a weird black screen with lots of $ and # symbols? Yes, its a Unix and its probably Linux.
MacOS is odd because I say so and because most users of it will insist on their screen being darkened and brightened at the same time. I don't like black being rammed into my eyes.
What did I just read?
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10/10 roast in the comments
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The video claims ada lovelace did not write the first computer program but it would kind of depend how you define what that is. If you check wikipedia it states:
âDuring 1842â1849, Ada Lovelace translated the memoir of Italian mathematician Luigi Menabrea about Charles Babbage's newest proposed machine: the Analytical Engine; she supplemented the memoir with notes that specified in detail a method for calculating Bernoulli numbers with the engine, recognized by most of historians as the world's first published computer program.â
From : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_programming_languages
This would indicate its not a cut and dry as the youtuber suggests and also I would assume he is not a historian(no clue who he is) so its unclear why his opinion or definition of computer program should usurp that of most historians who would recognise a term may change over time and be less well defined initially when inspiring a new technology?