Teslas turn toxic as sales crash in Europe and the UK | EV sales in the region are growing, but not for Tesla
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Can't wait to hear soldiers killing people in Ramstein driving these.
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The UK is technically on a few islands, one can use Gibraltar to argue, of course, and historically English crown did possess lots of land in Normandy, Anjou, Aquitaine and even Flanders, also that union with Hannover, but ahem.
Bunch of EU countries have land outside the mainland though
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Ah, the historically inaccurate, war criminal powered (Bush), meme. I forgot it included also a taste for the Vichy regime.
Strange to mention that and ignore Germany, the country that, you know, back then and now, has always been way more on the right than France.
"Punish France, ignore Germany" is still the current policy.
Germany lost, so it won't be funny for them.
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Well, I mean a car where I can fit with my wife, two kids, bag of groceries and still drive uphill...
I do that kind of trips with Spring. No problem. It has surprisingly big trunk for groceries and whatnot. If kids are above 3yo it’s all good.
Obviously it’s not a highway monster but for every day trips we usually take this one.
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Bunch of EU countries have land outside the mainland though
Most of their land you mean? EU yes, Europe has many definitions
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The EU one has camo painted seas, so I needed several seconds for my understanding of "what is where" kicked in. I wonder how they got this stupid idea
It's probably a more accurate colour anyway. I've seen the channel, it is mostly just gray.
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Give it a couple million years of plate tectonics.
The UK and Ireland are part of the same plate as Europe. Anyway 2 million isn't even that much time for continental drift, If you traveled back in time to the Jurassic that wouldn't be a significant difference between the layout of the continents then and the layouts of the continents now.
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Except for Jutland, the same could be said of the 400+ islands that make up Denmark. Yet Denmark is universally regarded as part of Europe, despite the main landmass/island pedantry.
The islands are still on the same plate, so they are still on the same continent.
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Microlino, Fiat panda grande, Renault 5, Citroën Ami and others. The smaller and more affordable versions are getting there.
Not a single one of them is available where I live. And once I checked them, they're not really family cars I was hoping for.
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The fiat 500 e fits all that and it’s a delight to drive.
It's a cool car, yes. Too small for me, but cool as fuck. Used ones are affordable, but it's still 34k € new, which is not cheap at all.
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So Dacia Spring?
If I was alone, this would be an option. With family, not so much. I've heard horrible stories, struggling to go uphill with 4 people on board, etc. And I live in a hilly area.
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Solid state is just around the corner in the same way fusion is. Toyota announced in 2010 they'd have it in prod by 2015, then 2018, then 2020, then 2025 then..."real soon now
"The MG "may be a semi solid state"
https://electrek.co/2024/12/16/new-semi-solid-state-battery-ev-launching-2025/
Which is not quite the same thing.
BYD and CATL who have a good track record of delivery are suggesting 2030
TL;DR
Don't wait for solid state, the current battery tech is more than adequate for the majority of people. Holding off for something "perfect" that may never arrive when "good enough" is here diesn't seem logical to me
There's already cars available today with semi solid state batteries: Some by Nio and one by IM.
The article I read about the MG was certain that it'd be solid state. Sorry for the incorrect info.
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A van can't deal with even remotely muddy grass. I lost count of how many vans I rescued, back when I had my pickup. They are also a lot less effective at dragging a horse trailer etc. Vans also (generally) don't have back seats. If you're also having to trek up and down the motorways, then the comfort of the ranger makes a big difference.
Our plant hire is delivered by a 20 year old mondeo. Van have more room for the work stuff and are plenty comfortable for motorway travel. Our off road vehicles are outlanders and vans are everything from mercedes to renault. Never had a problem that a pick up would have resolved.
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Fair point. I won’t judge Tesla drivers. I’ll judge Tesla drivers that don’t have a load of stickers on their car.
I'd judge Tesla drivers if they bought the car this year.
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It's a cool car, yes. Too small for me, but cool as fuck. Used ones are affordable, but it's still 34k € new, which is not cheap at all.
Fair enough on the price. We got a used 2021 for a lot less than that and it’s the perfect car for us. It’s surprisingly spacious inside. This is coming from a 195cm overweight guy.
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Fair enough on the price. We got a used 2021 for a lot less than that and it’s the perfect car for us. It’s surprisingly spacious inside. This is coming from a 195cm overweight guy.
Do you drive it with family?
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Do you drive it with family?
We’re only two so I understand we’re in a special situation. Kids would fit fine in the back, but with teenagers and adults it gets a bit tight.
Also, for some perspective, my normal driving position, the seat is somewhere in the middle of the movement range. Not all the way to the back.
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You may want to read the text before commenting nonsense, the French are not pleased either.
| Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK
| In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percentI don't see what justify your attack, it seems unnecessary to attack people based on their nationality.
Yes, we do have a far-right issue in France, but it's pretty much the same as everywhere else in Europe and there is still a resisting left here, not all hope is lost.
Also, regarding your comment below, the white flag stereotype for France comes from 2003, when the US and allies invaded and destroyed Irak, but for once France stood against the US imperialism.the white flag stereotype for France comes from 2003
It actually comes (unfairly) from the French army mutinies of 1917 and (also unfairly) from France's surrender to Hitler in 1940, in addition to their not joining in the fun in Iraq. All of which obscures a prior thousand-year history of kicking the shit out of people.
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Also doing a nazi salute in front of thousands of people with full blown media coverage.
Doing a nazi salute while making the Mussolini face, no less!
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Unfortunately, for most Americans, WW2 is more of a call of duty plot.
WW2 is more of a call of duty plot
It's the war Tom Hanks won.
