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Bad UX is keeping the majority of people away from Lemmy

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  • kilgore_trout@feddit.itK [email protected]

    Lemmy UX is identical to old Reddit. Come on.

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    wrote on last edited by
    #742

    Am used to New Reddit UX (2020-2022ish) but i still like this tbh.

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    • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

      In the early years fo Reddit, those wouldn't exist either. You have to start with bigger groups (NFL, NHL, etc) and split them if they ever get big enough.

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      #743

      Even the NFL one, the front page of posts the most comments is 10.

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        Even the NFL one, the front page of posts the most comments is 10.

        blackmist@feddit.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #744

        Discoverability is a serious issue on Lemmy. I'd wager there's a shitload of people here interested in the big US sports, but unless you know where the community is (and there's often multiple, and sometimes on instances you're not linked to), you're not going to see it.

        There's just not enough users for any algorithm pushing of obscure communities you might be interested in either.

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        • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

          Discoverability is a serious issue on Lemmy. I'd wager there's a shitload of people here interested in the big US sports, but unless you know where the community is (and there's often multiple, and sometimes on instances you're not linked to), you're not going to see it.

          There's just not enough users for any algorithm pushing of obscure communities you might be interested in either.

          blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #745

          [email protected] had a thread about sport communities recently

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          • S [email protected]

            Well the only way to change that is to engage with those communities and provide content. Ofc. community building isnt easy.

            blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #746

            [email protected]

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            • C [email protected]

              Even the NFL one, the front page of posts the most comments is 10.

              blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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              [email protected] had a thread about sport communities recently

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              • S [email protected]

                I consider myself an idiot when it comes to this, but even I had zero issues. Went to Lemmy, joined .zip because it sounded cool and started browsing All to discover other communities (same as Reddit). If it had more steps to that then I would’ve done that too because i acknowledge that Reddit is going to shit and I am committed to my principles.

                blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #748

                @[email protected]

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                • nutomic@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

                  Exactly it seems most people here still didn't realize that this is an open source project run by volunteers, not a corporation with countless employees and a profit motive. If people want something to get done then it's best they start doing it themselves.

                  blisterexe@lemmy.zipB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #749

                  tbf a lot of people here don't know how to code, or even where to start if they do

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                  • C [email protected]

                    I'm certain those replies are in bad faith to discourage people from leaving reddit. The first one is obvious for your aforemention reason. The second one. I mean the internet has been around for decades. People haven't suddenly forgot how to use it. Even normies have been able to figure out how to click a server. They're fomenting lazy inertia.

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                    #750

                    "retention bots" of some description wouldn't surprise me in the slightest..

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                    • R [email protected]

                      From everyone looking in: what the fuck is, ok, was Hexbear, why should I care and wtf can't I read anything from that place.

                      Same with registration, instances, etc. It's explained nowhere where how and why and i never have found a complete index with instances and communities.

                      I only can use lemmy because of sync. Yes, I'm also a reddit refugee.

                      honeynut@lemm.eeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #751

                      they're a group of early reddit refugees from when /r/chapotraphouse got banned on Reddit for celebrating John Brown and the death of slave owners. They set themselves up a few years before the mass migrations from the Reddit API debacle, and over time they cultivated a distinctly uncompromising (and at times inscrutable) culture that heavily moderates the slightest hint of Western chauvinism, transphobia, and anti-vegan sentiments.

                      However, they also despise what they consider the farcical nature of Reddit style civility, and combined with disabling downvotes to force people to vocalize their disagreements, they also have the tendency to dogpile on people that aren't perceived to be acting in good faith.

                      The biggest conflict with other instances is their third-worldist oriented strain of Marxism-Leninism which has a more accepting view of "AES" (Actually Existing Socialism i.e. China, Cuba, USSR, etc) that leads them to conclusions that critically favor actions by non-socialist states (Russia, Sahel States, Yemen, etc) which undermine the United States/Western hegemony.

                      When they updated their code to be compatible with federation, their extremely active users clashed pretty hard with the more liberal tide of recent Reddit migrants so the generalist Lemmy instances decided to just defederate from them.

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                      • A [email protected]

                        This reddit post likely has tens if not hundreds of thousands of views, look at the top comment.

                        Lemmy is losing so many potential new users because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.

                        What can we do?

                        mitm0@lemmy.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #752

                        Oh so we badmouthing & smearing the Fediverse huh.

                        Ok let's ask them what counts as a "Good UI/UX"
                        & "Endless wars" ? Really ?

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                        • A [email protected]

                          We have a slight disadvantage in that regard yes, but I know we can get to a UX comparable to Bluesky and Reddit.

                          There just doesn't seem to be much focus on it, I feel setting good defaults will solve most of these issues.

                          Lemmy is nice for me now, but it took a lot of effort finding the settings and UI that I like, people will give up long before that.

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                          See, I just use Thunder client and the defaults are x1000 times better than the official reddit app.

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                          • K [email protected]

                            I know when I say something inflammatory the response I will get, but I don't let it stop me from changing my view, and I intend to converse to further share and understand information.

                            I'm an asshole, not a hypocrite.

                            mitm0@lemmy.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #754

                            That will be for the Lemmy-folks to judge

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                            • moseschrute@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                              I’m working on a lemmy app. Will be UI focused!

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                              #755

                              Good luck & we'll be waiting

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                              • A [email protected]

                                This reddit post likely has tens if not hundreds of thousands of views, look at the top comment.

                                Lemmy is losing so many potential new users because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.

                                What can we do?

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                                #756

                                Reading these comments I feel a sense of dread. You are all experiencing survivor bias. Initially when I ran into barriers I gave up for like a year before bothering to try Lemmy again.

                                If you don't want Lemmy to serve as an actual counter to corporate controlled social media if it means letting in "normies" then you are content with corporate controlled social media continuing to dominate our lives. Which sounds about right for humanity. The smugness is vile.

                                Just bring on the vacuum decay event already.

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                                  I don't think partisan is even the right word here as many Lemmy users are too far left for mainstream political parties. In fact I am further left than most any mainstream party, but am still considered a capitalist shill by people here.

                                  mitm0@lemmy.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #757

                                  How far is "too far left" ?

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                                  • U [email protected]

                                    Shut down as in 'that's a terrible idea for the fediverse'

                                    If it was public & randomly sorted to the fediverse Lemmy servers, I don't see how it would be an issue

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                                    #758

                                    Do you know why? It sounds to me like a great addition to the fediverse.

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                                    • A [email protected]

                                      This reddit post likely has tens if not hundreds of thousands of views, look at the top comment.

                                      Lemmy is losing so many potential new users because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.

                                      What can we do?

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #759

                                      Who cares? If someone can't figure out how to join a server, then I don't want them here. If people think that reddit has some amazing UX, then I don't want them here.

                                      The post about Lemmy has 500 upvotes while the crybaby replies only have like 100.

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                                        Who cares? If someone can't figure out how to join a server, then I don't want them here. If people think that reddit has some amazing UX, then I don't want them here.

                                        The post about Lemmy has 500 upvotes while the crybaby replies only have like 100.

                                        queermunist@lemmy.mlQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        I don't want anyone staying on Reddit tbh

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                                        • A [email protected]

                                          This reddit post likely has tens if not hundreds of thousands of views, look at the top comment.

                                          Lemmy is losing so many potential new users because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.

                                          What can we do?

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #761

                                          Better UX than Reddit, they even point out that it’s like old.reddit instead of the trash UX they have now

                                          It’s just dismissive to get people to agree without looking

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