Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.
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I think Google and Apple should call it whatever the official names are, not to take any sort of political stance.
The official name is the Gulf of Mexico. It doesn't become a different name just because Trump declares it. It isn't up to him.
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Inside Mexico they should name it whatever the Mexico calls it. Outside Mexico it should be called however it is called in the respective country.
But again, Google is based in the US, all their decisions are made there.
I'm outside the U.S. and Mexico. This is what I see.
Incidentally, that is also what Mexicans see.
Trump and Google have decided that the whole world has to acknowledge Trump's unilateral declaration.
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What's dumb about this is that in their jurisdiction (Mexico) it is actually the "Gulf of Mexico" in Google Maps, they don't get the "Gulf of America" name. In the US it's labelled as "Gulf of America" without mentioning "Gulf of Mexico" which you could argue Google has to do because it (theoretically) follows national laws everywhere it operates.
That's why Korean users don't see the Sea of Japan to their east, they see the East Sea. That's why in some locations the Persian Gulf is referred to as the Arabian Gulf instead. It's also why inside India the borders you see for Kashmir don't match the borders you see for Kashmir if you're in Pakistan. The rest of the world sees a third version of that area with areas marked as disputed.
What's really annoying is that every other country in the world is exposed to this "Gulf of America" silliness, even countries where people don't speak English. I can understand (just barely) having "(Gulf of America)" under "Gulf of Mexico" in English-speaking countries because if someone is hearing news from a US source and they refer to the Gulf of America, it might be useful to know what they're talking about. It's in the news now, but in 3 years say you're a high-school kid trying to do a geography report and can't find the feature on the map, that could be annoying.
But, this parenthesis rule apparently even extends to Germany, where it's "Golf von Mexiko (Golf von Amerika)". There's no reason to include a name that doesn't exist in your language on your version of the maps app. If I, as an English-maps user look at Germany, I don't get Munich (Munchen). I don't get Florence (Firenze), I don't get India (Bhārat). There's a long-standing tradition that maps show things in the name that's local to the map user. Sometimes, over time, a name gets changed to be closer to the way it's said in the local language, so Peking became Beijing.
Also, google addressed this in a blog post from 2008, almost literally describing this situation:
"How Google determines the names for bodies of water in Google Earth ... if a ruler announced that henceforth the Pacific Ocean would be named after her mother, we would not add that placemark unless and until the name came into common usage"
Other than the ruler not being female, the body of water being a different one, and "America" not being Donald Trump's mother, this is the exact situation.
in their jurisdiction (Mexico) it is actually the "Gulf of Mexico" in Google Maps, they don't get the "Gulf of America" name.
I'm in Europe and for me it says "Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)". 🥴
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Hey! What did I ever do to you?
He was into a girl, but you beat her over the head with a club and dragged her back to your cave by her hair before he could make the first move (and beat her over he head with a club and drag her back to his cave by her hair).
You trog-blocked him, dude.
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Oh, sorry. You're right. I was wrong on that point. I didn't realize it showed the sensitive label in parenthesis to others.
I would maintain the rest of the argument though, with the Mexican (and global) point of view being the more prominently displayed, there is no significant harm, and she doesn't stand to gain anything from pursuing a civil case, nor politically.
It's not about harm. It's about kissing Trump's ass on something he doesn't actually get to decide to stay on his good side.
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President of mexico is just showing themselves to be as big of a baby as trump. Best thing to do is ignore it. Its of such little importance.
Right? Honestly there are plenty of geographical features that are named differently between different languages and countries. It really doesn't affect anybody except people in the US.
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It is labeled Gulf of Mexico in Mexico and the name doesn't mean they own it. This is almost as ridiculous as calling it Gulf of America in the first place
This is what I see in England. Why should I have to see what Trump thinks the Gulf's name is when it wasn't renamed here?
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It's stupid, but it's not that extreme. Countries have different names for things. For example, Germany calls the Baltic Sea "Ostsee" (lit. east sea) and Lake Constance 'Bodensee" (lit. bottom sea) but those things are only at the bottom and east for Germany.
China calls Taiwan "Chinese Taipei." Should Google Maps show "Taiwan (Chinese Taipei)" on maps? Because I don't see how that would be China's call any more than the name of the Gulf would be Trump's call.
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I want to know how many of the people here defending Google's decision would be okay with Google labeling Taiwan as "Taiwan (Chinese Taipei)" for people in Taiwan and also the rest of the world.
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or we keep american shit inside america.
fuck googlemaps, apple and all other shitty US corporations.
see, tump will die some day and be forgotten, but people will remember what apple and google did.
next time you see someone work for alphabet...spit them in the face. next time an american buys a burger, you spit on it. etc.
it is not about actual harm as america is killing itself anyway atm. my bingo card says if trump wins twice, there shall also be two pandemics. maybe protest the egg prices a bit more before using that muri-brain to do sth. against it. americans are just stupid. -
Right? Honestly there are plenty of geographical features that are named differently between different languages and countries. It really doesn't affect anybody except people in the US.
you both are stupid. "let the bully do it".
how about Fuck the USA? much sexier.
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Ive been already boycotting google, amazon, facebook, reddit. Yall need to get on it
it really sucks when you realise that virtually everything is a US company... and yet everything they sell is made in fucking China
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Google is worth more than Mexico. A frivolous lawsuit, which is what this would be, will hurt Mexico more.
have we (the human race) ever been to this point before? where corporations are big enough to absorb whole countries and there's pretty much nobody who'll stand up to them?
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or we keep american shit inside america.
fuck googlemaps, apple and all other shitty US corporations.
see, tump will die some day and be forgotten, but people will remember what apple and google did.
next time you see someone work for alphabet...spit them in the face. next time an american buys a burger, you spit on it. etc.
it is not about actual harm as america is killing itself anyway atm. my bingo card says if trump wins twice, there shall also be two pandemics. maybe protest the egg prices a bit more before using that muri-brain to do sth. against it. americans are just stupid.his name is now tump
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I like edamame and fried tofu. Does that make me one too?
Soybois unite!
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his name is now tump
Tumpthumbing
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It's not about harm. It's about kissing Trump's ass on something he doesn't actually get to decide to stay on his good side.
I'm not suggesting she should kiss ass, far be it from me. But I still don't see a good motive for this move. A civil suit is not going to get her anything, she's just highlighting Trumps symbolic bullshit even more.
And then when the suit either goes against her or goes for her but results in laughibly low compensation because the measureable harm is not significant, then it will look like a confirmation of the power of the convict in chief.
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He was into a girl, but you beat her over the head with a club and dragged her back to your cave by her hair before he could make the first move (and beat her over he head with a club and drag her back to his cave by her hair).
You trog-blocked him, dude.
Oops. My bad
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I'm not suggesting she should kiss ass, far be it from me. But I still don't see a good motive for this move. A civil suit is not going to get her anything, she's just highlighting Trumps symbolic bullshit even more.
And then when the suit either goes against her or goes for her but results in laughibly low compensation because the measureable harm is not significant, then it will look like a confirmation of the power of the convict in chief.
I was talking about Google kissing Trump's ass. Which is why this is happening.
It takes an act of congress to rename a domestic post office. Google has taken his executive order and decided it's true for everyone, at least parenthetically.
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you both are stupid. "let the bully do it".
how about Fuck the USA? much sexier.
Sorry, that isn't what I was trying to say. It's not about "letting the bully do it" (which isn't what i said at all, so i dont know why you put it in quotation marks)
It's just a name. It's nothing. Better to fight him on denying trans people, or taking away rights from women, or reversing climate change deals, or letting a lizard faced man child dismantle the federal governement, or promoting racism, and nazi-ism.
The name of a fucking body of water means absolutely nothing compared to some of the shit he is pulling.
I dont think being concerned with the name of the gulf matters at all compared to this.
Did you see recently the thing about plastic straws? That he wants to bring back plastic straws? This is the kind of thing he wants to change! Trump is a complete moron and he is causing a crazy amount of damage to the US and the rest of the world. But you want to fight him over changing the name of some water?
No! i will not accept my downvotes, i stand by what i said. Its not important, you are directing your anger at the wrong target.
