Can we please, PLEASE for gods sake just all agree that arch is not and will never be a good beginner distro no matter how many times you fork it?
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Has this kid installed Linux before? Or at least some tech background?
Even without it, you know kids learn really well, right? Can you say the same about a 40 year old?
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This was a big driver for my distro hopping, until I landed on purple Arch. I'll either go to the blue team or Gentoo or LFS or something if I decide to hop again.
My struggle was that more beginner-friendly distros like mint and Fedora workstations were too beginner-friendly. I struggled to find things to learn because I installed it and had an out-of-the-box windows experience
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Linux Mint.
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I think people might be saying their system broke when a specific, non critical, application doesn't work after an update based on an interaction here.
That does become more common if you start installing third party software and/or use less common/recommended tools. Personally I wouldn't consider that breaking, but I guess to a casual person it might not be clear that rolling upgrade systems have this risk and the weirder your system gets the more familiar you should be with backups and rollbacks.
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Installing is just following directions. It's maintaining it after you Frankenstein the hell out of it that most new users struggle with
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EOS btw.
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If that is the case, that's a weird way to think. I mean, if I was using Windows and one app stopped working, I wouldn't blame that on Windows, I would just assume an issue with that particular app being incompatible with an update.
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At least, my definition of my system breaking is either it won't boot at all, or it won't boot into the DE. Even then, not booting could be a broken bootloader (not a broken system) which is usually straightforward to fix. -
Your main issue with Linux is that it doesn't help you pirate proprietary software made for another OS?
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Has this kid installed Linux before? Or at least some tech background?
No. I sat behind her and encouraged her to read the prompts in their entirety. She asked questions (like the difference between sys/data partitions, etc), that's basically it. I maintain that if a child can do it, anyone can. People don't read as well as they should.
Even without it, you know kids learn really well, right? Can you say the same about a 40 year old?
This is the worst excuse in the history of excuses... Quite literally pathetic.
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Now this I can agree with.
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sometimes nvidia drivers are in a state that breaks display reinit on wake from sleep
That happens so often that I've just bound a hotkey in Hyprland to poke my monitors config (toggling VRR off and on again) in order to force a mode change and wake up the display.
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Debian welcomes you
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Yeah, I would say broken if it wont boot to a normal userspace. Like if you need to insert a recovery tool, or even just login as root and unfuck something before you can get your X/Wayland session up, or if applications start crashing because toolFoo has some critical bug.
But the last time that happened was on Debian when I tried to write a fstab file manually without reading the manual. Also this was the era of CD drives and no multi PC households. Learned a valuable lesson on the ride back from the library, printed documentation in hand haha.
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And nice gui apps, default settings, nice community and cool branding.
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It's the best beginner distro for those beginners who want to learn about linux.
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That's why you shouldn't Frankenstein it
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EndeavourOS is the best
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Debian is the best distro for newbies, it may require setup and reading some documentation but afterwards you get a stable distro.
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My other thought was "obnoxious American tourists," but the bacon thing sealed it.
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This is the worst excuse in the history of excuses... Quite literally pathetic.
Then you're just an ablist who thinks everybody is the same. Go be a motivator or something.
