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‘The tyranny of apps’: those without smartphones are unfairly penalised, say campaigners

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  • recursive_recursion@lemmy.caR [email protected]

    A mobile app requirement is an easy excuse for me to nope the fuck out.

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    My old apartment had gates that could only be opened with an app. They took out the card reader and made it app only. Should have gotten out of there much earlier than I did.

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      Considering your average printer is a piece of shit that needs to be replaced quite often, yes, using a website is probably more energy efficient.

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      That and those servers are going to be running anyway. Powering a simple restaurant website is a grain of sand on the beach of internet usage.

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        Get $50.

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          Scan QR code. Order on your phone. Pay on your phone. Asks for a tip.

          So uh, what exactly am I tipping you here for dawg?

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          that stuff is nice as an option. There's a bar I go to that I can order my food and drink to the table my friends are at, while I'm walking to the place, and everything just arrives shortly after I sit down. Other people get offended about how fast I get served, it's always amusing. I also enjoy not interacting with the staff, nothing against them, brain just doesn't brain sometimes.

          But what if I didn't have a phone? or if I left home without it? 24/7 pocket rectangle is not natural.

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            also those who dont want to install that spyware shit on their phones. Even if you dont care about the data collection it still consumes battery faster as more and more data is being transferred

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            • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

              This person has never seen the power bill for running a high-availability server with several failovers once in their lives.

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              In fairness neither have I - though I suspect it's not as insignificant as other's claim.

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                Man, I’m torn on this one.

                We have two grocery stores in our exurban area.

                Kroger, as a corporation, contributes to politicians of both US parties in roughly equal measure. Less than ideal (zero contributions), but not too bad I guess. But, they do have an obnoxious customer loyalty card program. Boo!

                Publix, on the other hand, doesn’t have a customer loyalty card program at all. Yay! But, the corporation and their leadership contribute HEAVILY to the new Trumpy GOP, Matt Gaetz in particular. So, fuck them.

                I’m boycotting Publix. Lesser of two evils I guess.

                I really wish we had a locally-owned mom ’n pop grocery. I’d pay a premium for that.

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                Contributing to that Kinderficker changes my opinion of Publix.

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                • tabular@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                  In fairness neither have I - though I suspect it's not as insignificant as other's claim.

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                  It's not insignificant at all. Servers are beefy and take more power than a standard PC... a lot more. Further, failover servers mean you have to have exact copies of the same server up and available, which means you're doubling, tripling, quadrupling power demands. Finally, you also have to have Uninterruptible Power Supplies, those take an amount of power as well.

                  It's a huge power draw. I know because I have a bunch of low-power devices runnig 24/7 as microservices and it still increase my power bill and use by a lot. I regularly get letters from the power company about how I'm using like 3x the power of the average person in my type of unit.

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                    Any time I'm required to use an app for something that could be a website, I leave the app a one star review.

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                      The funny thing about qr codes for restaurant menus to me, as someone that studied menu design. Is that actual menus are designed specific ways make the restaurant more profit and make it easier for people to find what they want. Whereas qr codes often bring one to a hastily designed list of categories which are not only less intuitive but also less manipulative. So people will end up taking longer to order less profitable dishes.

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                      Hell yeah, consumer win. I like selecting an item and it offers me changes or addition options that I never would have considered!

                      But really, it means they can hire less people so they gain profit anyway.

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                          That is what I noticed. Everything these days require app to get shopping vouchers, book tickets, go in to your local gym, pay in store (we are being weaned off from using cash) etc.

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                            You don't need an app to use a loyalty card...

                            But yes I am against supermarkets that only provide discounts if you use their loyalty program, which in turn allows them to track your purchases. Especially since many items are priced with the discount as the "fair" price and the full price is really just a money grab.

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                            This kinda shit is why I go to Aldi instead. They give everyone the same low prices. Tesco have their clubcard and seeing how much more they want to charge me for not having one puts me off ever going there on a regular basis.

                            Also under 18s can't get these loyalty cards here so fuck you I guess you have to pay a load more.

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                            • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                              It's not insignificant at all. Servers are beefy and take more power than a standard PC... a lot more. Further, failover servers mean you have to have exact copies of the same server up and available, which means you're doubling, tripling, quadrupling power demands. Finally, you also have to have Uninterruptible Power Supplies, those take an amount of power as well.

                              It's a huge power draw. I know because I have a bunch of low-power devices runnig 24/7 as microservices and it still increase my power bill and use by a lot. I regularly get letters from the power company about how I'm using like 3x the power of the average person in my type of unit.

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                              I regularly get letters from the power company about how I'm using like 3x the power of the average person in my type of unit.

                              I'm also using a lot of self hosted things but have never received any of those.

                              Where do you reside generally where they're sending them because it ain't a thing here in the UK?

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                                Get out of the stone age.

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                                Someone make a smartphone that isn't a steaming pile of shit then. The pinephone was so close but struggled with SMS when I tried it.

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                                  I regularly get letters from the power company about how I'm using like 3x the power of the average person in my type of unit.

                                  I'm also using a lot of self hosted things but have never received any of those.

                                  Where do you reside generally where they're sending them because it ain't a thing here in the UK?

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                                  US, west coast.

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                                    US, west coast.

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                                    I don't think I'd feel "attacked" but more impressed that I came to light if they sent me them very much like a naughty "copyright warning" and would send it back with a brick in it.

                                    Cheers!

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                                      Cloudalist's and their technofuedalism

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                                      • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                        It's not insignificant at all. Servers are beefy and take more power than a standard PC... a lot more. Further, failover servers mean you have to have exact copies of the same server up and available, which means you're doubling, tripling, quadrupling power demands. Finally, you also have to have Uninterruptible Power Supplies, those take an amount of power as well.

                                        It's a huge power draw. I know because I have a bunch of low-power devices runnig 24/7 as microservices and it still increase my power bill and use by a lot. I regularly get letters from the power company about how I'm using like 3x the power of the average person in my type of unit.

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                                        I had not considered that an uninterruptible power supply would be consuming power after charging. I suppose no electronics are 100% efficient at what they do.

                                        I've been playing with a Proxmox server on an ITX system for local services and rare game hosting for friends. I'd love something low power I could have on all the time.

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                                          I mean I simply refuse to ask QR code phishing is a thing

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                                          You might enjoy SecScannerQR then. It makes it easier to vet QR codes by giving an option to search for the URL instead of going there directly.

                                          https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.t_dankworth.secscanqr/

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