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  • F [email protected]

    Thanks for the input, like I said though in my post I’m not really looking for something I can fiddle with but thanks for advice

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    #136

    I'm going to agree with you, and I've been using Linux for over 25 years, and used to moderate the Mint subreddit.

    Mint isn't ready for gaming without a lot of work that I don't think you want to put in, it's Wayland support is sadly lacking, and overall it's gotten a bit behind for anything more demanding than browsing and office work.

    If you want a low-fiddle distro with good gaming support and graphics tweaks already in there, I'd say Nobara or Bazzite. Bazzite is very similiar to SteamOS in that it's an immutable distro, and it is very up to date without you having to do much beyond keeping it updated. But the immutable part might make installing things a little non-intuitive. In which case, Nobara is a normally installed distro with all the tweaks, and it's based on Fedora, uses Wayland, and has pretty much all the gaming software pre-installed.

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    • ikidd@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

      I'm going to agree with you, and I've been using Linux for over 25 years, and used to moderate the Mint subreddit.

      Mint isn't ready for gaming without a lot of work that I don't think you want to put in, it's Wayland support is sadly lacking, and overall it's gotten a bit behind for anything more demanding than browsing and office work.

      If you want a low-fiddle distro with good gaming support and graphics tweaks already in there, I'd say Nobara or Bazzite. Bazzite is very similiar to SteamOS in that it's an immutable distro, and it is very up to date without you having to do much beyond keeping it updated. But the immutable part might make installing things a little non-intuitive. In which case, Nobara is a normally installed distro with all the tweaks, and it's based on Fedora, uses Wayland, and has pretty much all the gaming software pre-installed.

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      #137

      Well that’s quite the resume! Yeah idk if I mentioned it to you but I was planning on using bazzite first

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      • F [email protected]

        Good to know

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        #138

        FWIW, if you decide to go with KDE and manage to delete your panel, it's

        • right click on the desktop
        • enter edit mode
        • add panel
        • default panel

        😉

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        • O [email protected]

          FWIW, if you decide to go with KDE and manage to delete your panel, it's

          • right click on the desktop
          • enter edit mode
          • add panel
          • default panel

          😉

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          #139

          Good to know

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          • F [email protected]

            Ooooooooo that sounds nice

            I might just go from Amazon depending on hardware and price but I’m definitely gonna add this to my list

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            #140

            If you go with Amazon you might get a PC that works with Linux but it probrally wont be preinstalled or optimized for Linux

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            • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zoneK [email protected]

              If you go with Amazon you might get a PC that works with Linux but it probrally wont be preinstalled or optimized for Linux

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              #141

              Oh I highly doubt something has Linux which is why I wanna figure out installation and stuff

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                Oh I highly doubt something has Linux which is why I wanna figure out installation and stuff

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                #142

                Keep in mind by purchasing from Linux brands such as System76 you directly support the development of Linux. In addition Amazon is great for finding PC parts but awful for finding a decently priced prebuilt.

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                  So all I know that the Linux mascot is a penguin and Arch users meme about using Arch. Jokes aside I’m planning on making to the jump to Linux as I’m planning on getting a tower PC. I recently got a steam deck and that kinda demystified the (unrealistic) expectation I had of Linux was all command line stuff and techno babble. This all very future oriented questions* as I haven’t even picked out hardware (probably gonna go prebuilt since I do not trust me) and there’s also the matter of saving up the money for a new PC.

                  As for my use case (cus I know some software is wonky on Linux compared to windows) it’s mostly between games running on steam, which most of my games play fine on the steam deck, and essays and note taking for my college classes, which I use libre office and obsidian (with excalidraw to hand write my notes) saved to my proton drive and also sync those documents between my surface laptop and home laptop

                  My ideal OS would be plug it in, let it do… things… and it’s ready to be a PC to install steam and stuff

                  But first question, as someone who isn’t tech inclined and tinkering is pretty much just a few VERY basic settings in the settings app on windows, so is there a Linux… idk what to call it, type? OS? Thing??? that runs out of the box without me having to install additional software manually or at least automatic setup wizards because like hardware, I do not trust me with setting it up. As for installing it after I wipe whatever computer I choose I assume I’m gonna have some OS installer on a USB and let it work its magic.

                  Second question, is there any specific hardware that works easier with Linux, I can’t really think of any examples cus with installers and updaters I just the computer handle it, like updating Nvidia stuff in the GeForce app for all I know it’s genuinely performing dark magic during the automated updates

                  Anyways I probably have way more questions that I have no idea I had, but to wrap up I’m not super tech inclined since I let automated stuff do its thang on windows (if the computer can manage and install it I’m gonna let it do that) and my pc mostly just plays games and do documents on libre office and obsidian

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                  Using Linux since 2008 ish.... (As non IT user), I recommend going and route, and using pop os (or bazzite which people say also works well but is personally haven't tried), I am currently using tuxedo os on my laptop but my pop os journey for your use case on the home machine has been the smoothest, and if you go do route which I did, I had never thought about any driver issues.... The only thing in pop (which I haven't updated for a year now, yeah life got crazy), was that always do apt get updates / upgrades as pop OS's package manager gui used to get stuck sometimes, once the terminal completes the updates then use the GUI to update the pop os things. Other than this small hiccup, never had to do anything else.
                  (Oh yeah when buying hardware some people told me that getting the latest and greatest cutting edge sometimes takes time for the kernel to catch up to the optimizations of drivers, but I always bought 1 or 2 gen behind the latest and never had any issues, I mostly play Indy games other than 1/or 2 like Tekken series at 2k monitor so I never cared about 4k 120 or above fps.)

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                  • penguin202124@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

                    Bazzite would be a great choice in my opinion. It's meant for gaming, has drivers preinstalled and is immutable (basically impossible to break). I'd suggest using KDE because it's Windows-like and is the default for desktop mode on SteamOS.

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                    I second this. I installed bazzite on my basement pc and am very happy with it. As a total linux noob it was easy to use. I use that pc more now than my actual gaming pc, because win 11 is just so annoying and slow.
                    I’d like to add one thing: Don’t use Nvidia graphics, as they don’t play nice with linux. It saves you a lot of time in the future if you build your computer with amd stuff.

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                    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zoneK [email protected]

                      Keep in mind by purchasing from Linux brands such as System76 you directly support the development of Linux. In addition Amazon is great for finding PC parts but awful for finding a decently priced prebuilt.

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                      Ah good to know, any recommended parts I don’t really keep up with hardware

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                      • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

                        i have given linux to many many people at this point and neither of these things have been problems, when's the last time you used kde?

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                        Fwiw I'm new to Linux and went with KDE and it seems totally buggy as shit. I love it though. I don't even wanna try the other desktop environments

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                        • F [email protected]

                          Ah good to know, any recommended parts I don’t really keep up with hardware

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                          I would get a 6000 series radeon gpu and a x3d ryzen cpu

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                          • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zoneK [email protected]

                            I would get a 6000 series radeon gpu and a x3d ryzen cpu

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                            Alright thanks! I was probably gonna make a follow up post specifally for hardware today just so I can ah more info

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                            • raddevon@lemmy.zipR [email protected]

                              I feel it’s important to note for new people that, while an immutable OS is great at keeping you from breaking your system, the way it achieves this can make some things you would want to do more difficult. In Bazzite, installing software, for example, works differently than under a typical distribution.

                              I’ll give the example of two pieces of software that I use regularly: 1Password and Espanso. It took a fair bit of digging to figure out how to install 1Password in a way that would preserve its tight system integration… and it still doesn’t quite work — copying a password in particular contexts just doesn’t put that password on the clipboard, while it works fine in other contexts. Espanso on the other hand just won’t work under Bazzite best I can tell. I haven’t found a way to install it at all so I’m just doing without. Oh My ZSH was also quite tricky, and I got yelled at in the Bazzite Discord for doing it the wrong way. 😅

                              Plenty of the software I use works fine and was easy to install: FreeTube, Kdenlive, VLC, Zen Browser… unless you count the fact that the 1Password browser integration just won’t work with Zen Browser, presumably because I haven’t found the exact right combination of Flatpak permissions plus settings that will allow it to.

                              All this to say, I love Bazzite for gaming and use it every day, but the moment you step outside that world and want your computer to do something a little bit differently, it’s a major headache. In the context of gaming, it’s much closer to “just works” than any other distro I’ve tried.

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                              In Bazzite, installing software, for example, works differently than under a typical distribution.

                              This is true, but it's also on the whole a lot more familiar to a non-Linux user (open app store, search, download).

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                                So all I know that the Linux mascot is a penguin and Arch users meme about using Arch. Jokes aside I’m planning on making to the jump to Linux as I’m planning on getting a tower PC. I recently got a steam deck and that kinda demystified the (unrealistic) expectation I had of Linux was all command line stuff and techno babble. This all very future oriented questions* as I haven’t even picked out hardware (probably gonna go prebuilt since I do not trust me) and there’s also the matter of saving up the money for a new PC.

                                As for my use case (cus I know some software is wonky on Linux compared to windows) it’s mostly between games running on steam, which most of my games play fine on the steam deck, and essays and note taking for my college classes, which I use libre office and obsidian (with excalidraw to hand write my notes) saved to my proton drive and also sync those documents between my surface laptop and home laptop

                                My ideal OS would be plug it in, let it do… things… and it’s ready to be a PC to install steam and stuff

                                But first question, as someone who isn’t tech inclined and tinkering is pretty much just a few VERY basic settings in the settings app on windows, so is there a Linux… idk what to call it, type? OS? Thing??? that runs out of the box without me having to install additional software manually or at least automatic setup wizards because like hardware, I do not trust me with setting it up. As for installing it after I wipe whatever computer I choose I assume I’m gonna have some OS installer on a USB and let it work its magic.

                                Second question, is there any specific hardware that works easier with Linux, I can’t really think of any examples cus with installers and updaters I just the computer handle it, like updating Nvidia stuff in the GeForce app for all I know it’s genuinely performing dark magic during the automated updates

                                Anyways I probably have way more questions that I have no idea I had, but to wrap up I’m not super tech inclined since I let automated stuff do its thang on windows (if the computer can manage and install it I’m gonna let it do that) and my pc mostly just plays games and do documents on libre office and obsidian

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                                Just get an all AMD (CPU & GPU) build and flash a thumb drive with Bazzite (bazzite-deck), your PC will be very similar to your Steam Deck.

                                I did this, best decision ever.

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                                  Just get an all AMD (CPU & GPU) build and flash a thumb drive with Bazzite (bazzite-deck), your PC will be very similar to your Steam Deck.

                                  I did this, best decision ever.

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                                  Yeah I was looking at some AMD stuff and pretending all the tech specs make sense

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                                    Yeah I was looking at some AMD stuff and pretending all the tech specs make sense

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                                    If you want, post what you are looking at and we can help you chose.

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                                    • corgana@startrek.websiteC [email protected]

                                      In Bazzite, installing software, for example, works differently than under a typical distribution.

                                      This is true, but it's also on the whole a lot more familiar to a non-Linux user (open app store, search, download).

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                                      You’re right, but part of the draw of Linux is that you have more control over your OS. An immutable distro makes that a lot harder to get at as compared to non-immutable.

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                                        If you want, post what you are looking at and we can help you chose.

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                                        Oh yeah that’s 100% what I was planning to do, I’m just talking with a few friends who actually know computer stuff so I can have a selection when I consult the Linux wizards once more

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