Proton will no longer post on Mastodon
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If you read the whole thing again, he is supporting Trump and the Republicans.
Here is the CEO's post along with a link to an article with the twitter link.
Great pick by @realDonaldTrump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.
He is supporting Trump's pick for a roll, fair enough. But the rest of the post, he is talking about how he hopes the republicans will do something about big tech. He isn't endorsing Trump himself or his stance of policies. Far as I've seen he never has. He it literally just stating what the republicans used to be about.
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It was still a completely naive and idiotic thing to say and doesn't show the forethought and strategic thinking that comes with being a good CEO, especially one of a service that could literally put people's lives in danger if jeopardized.
So it's naive to voice his opinion on what a Trump presidency could mean for the tech industry? Looking back to trump's previous term big tech shunned him and Twitter even kicked him off the platform by the end of his presidency. Back then it pissed Trump off and he threatened all sorts of shit. I don't think it was that crazy to think that he would still be upset about it and try to do something at the begining of December when Proton's CEO made that post.
If you look at what proton is trying to do in terms of becoming a complete non-proffit that would have many safeguards in place to undo that change. I think it does show he has some level of forethought. The one caveat being that they have not completed that process and implemented everything yet so we'll have to see if that promise follows through
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"We hate that our CEO keeps getting called out and slammed by our followers so we're gonna stick our fingers in our ears"
Also good time to remind everyone Tuta exists
https://tuta.com/Would’ve switched in a heartbeat with IMAP support but that’s not in the cards. Stuck with Proton for now.
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Follow us on Reddit
That's where you lost me. Not for now, for good.
Yeah damn that hurts. Just signed up for tuta. I will be leaving proton soon I guess. A shame, I had just finished moving all my communications there…
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"We hate that our CEO keeps getting called out and slammed by our followers so we're gonna stick our fingers in our ears"
Also good time to remind everyone Tuta exists
https://tuta.com/I've been using Tuta Mail for a few years now. No complaints. Most of the features you would expect. Lack of IMAP support is kinda disappointing but survivable. Their email security is very strong though — they encrypt every part of your email, including subject
(some providers only encrypt the body). They're also rolling out post-quantum encryption of email data at rest, which tickles my crypto nerd side.They've still a loong way to go to match Proton's product suite though, as they only offer Email, Contacts and Calendar for now. They're working on Drive storage next, which is the main reason I currently use Proton.
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They also can't control the narrative on Mastodon like they do on Reddit and Lemmy through "volunteer mod" Nelizea.
How do they control the narrative around here?
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I liked electrons and neutrons better anyways....
Underrated comment, right here!!
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True, but that’s defense by concealment. If they notice the domain, they can block it without harming their business. My argument is that iCloud is too large for them to block.
People have still blocked my iCloud.
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Almost certainly, yes.
People on Mastodon are not happy about those statements, and called Proton out on it relentlessly with every post Proton made. This is Proton running away with their tail between their legs, back to platforms where they have more control and/or are already full of right-wing nutjobs.
If anyone's looking for secure email, look at tuta.com instead. The email service is very similar in terms of UX and offers better encryption. They don't offer the rest of Proton's suite, but...maybe that's a good thing? I mean, do you want to get locked into an ecosystem?
In what way is Tuta's encryption better?
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People have still blocked my iCloud.
What do you mean by that?
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Yeah but without email aliases it would not be worth it
Bitwarden integrates directly with several email alias providers: https://bitwarden.com/blog/add-privacy-and-security-using-email-aliases-with-bitwarden/
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Proton: “We’re consolidating our social media presence due to limited resources and no longer posting on Mastodon. Follow us on Reddit for the latest updates”
If Proton does not refer to the Steam's Windows adapter layer for Linux, I don't care.
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What do you mean by that?
They have given me errors when trying to register with a hidden iCloud email.
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Bitwarden integrates directly with several email alias providers: https://bitwarden.com/blog/add-privacy-and-security-using-email-aliases-with-bitwarden/
That might be worth it. Is bitwarden self hosted FOSS?
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"We hate that our CEO keeps getting called out and slammed by our followers so we're gonna stick our fingers in our ears"
Also good time to remind everyone Tuta exists
https://tuta.com/How does this factor in to all this? https://archive.ph/xoleo
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How do they control the narrative around here?
They control moderation, as they also do on Reddit. I don't know about Lemmy but I have personally been shadowbanned on their Reddit sub. They can't do that on Mastodon.
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Here is the CEO's post along with a link to an article with the twitter link.
Great pick by @realDonaldTrump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.
He is supporting Trump's pick for a roll, fair enough. But the rest of the post, he is talking about how he hopes the republicans will do something about big tech. He isn't endorsing Trump himself or his stance of policies. Far as I've seen he never has. He it literally just stating what the republicans used to be about.
No, he literally STARTED by stating what the republicans used to be about and then added a wildly inaccurate statement about what the republicans are about now.
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Does this have anything to do with the CEO expressing his support for Trump?
Did he directly express support for trump? I only saw something along the lines of "the Republican party is better than the Dems because they will address big tech". Albeit that statement itself is misguided in many ways, but curious about what his actual post said?
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In what way is Tuta's encryption better?
Proton does not use end-to-end encryption for email headers. That includes the subject lines, senders/recipients, and other potentially sensitive information.
Tuta uses E2EE for email contents AND headers.
Consider for a moment what someone with access to your contacts and subject lines would know about you. For me personally, they would know which political campaigns and causes I donate to, and when. They would know when I see various doctors, and who they are. They would know my travel dates and destinations. They would know what newsletters I read (many of which are also political). Etc.
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Did he directly express support for trump? I only saw something along the lines of "the Republican party is better than the Dems because they will address big tech". Albeit that statement itself is misguided in many ways, but curious about what his actual post said?
because they will address big tech
That aged like milk.
