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  • E [email protected]

    Calling pronouns political is a straight up dog whistle

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    there may also be the possibility of the dev simply not wanting to define his views publicly out of the blue, because regardless of stance, you will make enemies, potentially hindering the projects development or facing personal repercussions.

    It should be allowed for someone to not out themselves as either transphobic or an ally. If the person does have issues with pronouns, it's better if they simply keep to themselves instead of loudly proclaiming it. The other way around it's the same - even if someone is pro trans, it might not be suitable for them to openly speak about it - it might even put them in danger.

    I agree with you that this is often a dog whistle, but it might also be a poor choice of wording.

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      Just installed it on void. Still not quite usable for daily use but it's not bad.

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      • N [email protected]

        what r they gonna do if it's open source and doesn't collect data.
        worry more about ur OS

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        Ask Mozilla

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          To go along with the alt right stuff, one of their major donors is Shopify.

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          So what?

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            what r they gonna do if it's open source and doesn't collect data.
            worry more about ur OS

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            I'm pretty sure my Debian doesn't collect personal data either

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            • mrscottytay@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

              I hate it so much, even when I NEED to go there for help and support, I know I'm lonely the tenth person to ask the same question. I honestly don't know why so many people love this way of support, just document it!

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              Also you need an account to even view it. And I've heard they're really trigger-happy about banning the accounts or holding them hostage until you provide a phone number...

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              • R [email protected]

                Is there any source for this?

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                No, there is no source, because it's an overinflated nothingburger created to stir up controversy and division.

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                • E [email protected]

                  Transphobic main dev ruined the project for me

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                  #178

                  Don't be a dick. The dev is not transphobic, and you know it.

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                    same slogan everywhere, plant pictures for a strong greenwashing aesthetics, old white men smiling reassuringly. 5/7 homepage.

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                    • N [email protected]

                      Ok, you keep saying that but never explain why/how. Like, why refuse such a small change so aggressively?

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                      The change was accepted after a short conversation. So to talk about "refusing a small change so aggressively" is total bullshit, like you're trying to start a fight or something.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        Yeah, that too... Everything is political if you want to really get into it. People just want to be able to ignore it until it directly affects them.

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                        Indeed. It’s a privilege to be able to stay inside your little circle and say “we don’t do politics” or “ no ideology here”.

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                          So what?

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                          Shopify willingly hosted and sold Kanye's swastika shirt.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            Tankies are annoying, but they're not on the same level as fascists.

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                            Then why do they keep praising a fascist country like Russia?

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                              Then why do they keep praising a fascist country like Russia?

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                              Wait a minute. Tankies praise Russia and American fascists praise Russia? It really is a circle of shit.

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                              • S [email protected]

                                They refused to accept a PR from a random person with just one single word change for a string that only the developer himself is seeing.

                                I think the developer has all the rights not to accept such a PR which adds nothing to the program. And I think people that really care about gender inclusivity should stop focusing on this useless nitpicks, which makes inclusivity appear like made up by a bunch of trolls.

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                                It's pretty telling to focus on the dev's right to reject inclusivity while simultaneously rejecting and deriding everyone else's right to judge them for that.

                                And if it was such a useless change, why didn't the dev reject it for that instead of saying it was "political"? He's the one that declared the word itself, not the utility of the change, was the problem. Calling everyone else "trolls" for pointing that out is just disingenuous.

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                                • mrscottytay@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                                  I hate it so much, even when I NEED to go there for help and support, I know I'm lonely the tenth person to ask the same question. I honestly don't know why so many people love this way of support, just document it!

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                                  I've found that if it's set up right, it works well for announcements and short discussions around that. But as far as support, it's absolute trash. It's nice for slightly quicker communication on updates than than updating a website, and I'll see all the backlash from users saying "this update broke everything you idiots", so I know to wait.

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                                    Excellent edit. Did you make it?

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                                      Wait a minute. Tankies praise Russia and American fascists praise Russia? It really is a circle of shit.

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                                      It's not a circle, it's more of a grid, with left/right on one axis and authoritarianism/libertarianism on the other. Facists and tankies align on the authoritarianism axis.

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                                      • F [email protected]

                                        Excellent edit. Did you make it?

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                                        I actually saw someone make the same edit, but I couldn't find it in time, so I made my own edit.

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                                          Shopify willingly hosted and sold Kanye's swastika shirt.

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                                          Why is this relevant to this sponsorship and the development of the browser? I wouldn't mind Kanye donating himself if that ensures that we get a great browser. Who cares where the money comes from?

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