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  • spaniard@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    but after a couple times you're left with no choice but to let it run.

    That would be an user issue then. If I have an update I'll try to do it asap, if I can't then end of my shift.

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    Well for one, I'm not sure I consider it an "issue"... But yeah, it's absolutely 100% on me lol

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      why bother with that in a rant, I say it's bloat, and they were right to no use it. in fact now that im thinking about this i realize i can save a lot of time if i dont give a shit what the text looks like. cry about it

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      IFYOUREMADENOUGHEVENSPACESANDLOWERCASELETTERSAREBLOAT

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        I’m no Windows fanboy but I have to use it quite a lot, at home and at work. I don’t know what versions or settings you guys have set up but I’ve never had a Windows update I can’t postpone, ever.

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        24h2 is now a forced upgrade

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          IFYOUREMADENOUGHEVENSPACESANDLOWERCASELETTERSAREBLOAT

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          NDCNSNNTS2

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          And consonants too
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            Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
            Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
            Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
            So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
            There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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            This sounds like a problem with your organization. I use windows at the hospital where I work, and we don't run into these kinds of issues. Yeah it is rife with other issues like goading you into using microsoft edge, one drive, and more, but updates are handled by IT.

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              Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
              Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
              Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
              So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
              There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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              I'm assuming the windows machine is a work PC and the Linux is yours right?

              Because what you describe doesn't sound like a "windows" issue but rather an IT management issue.

              You can put off updates and reboots a very long time. And always be able yo postpone them.

              Applying updates on boot daily sounds dumb to me.
              But I'm also figuring your IT dept has poor (or no) sense in managing their inventory well. Most updates can be applied silently at a scheduled time.

              Also, your machine sounds old and/or poorly maintained the way you describe it. If its more than 5 years old your company is just cheap.

              I'm all for griping about Windows but this seems off to me.

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                Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                I recently had a spare machine sitting around doing nothing and was feeling a bit masochistic, so I decided to install Windows 11 on it just to see what it was like. I've used Windows 10 a tiny bit but essentially haven't touched Windows in years. A couple of the fun things I noticed:

                • After installing, I was going to set a new wallpaper. I double-clicked on a jpeg file and instead of opening it, it popped up with a window asking me what I wanted to do with this apparently unknown file type. I literally said out loud, "what do you mean, it's a fucking jpeg." Then it did the same thing for a .zip.

                • I also made a restore point once I had all the basics installed, so I could roll back when Windows inevitably fucked up doing an update. I then did the first big update and it fucked it up. "No worries" I thought, "I made a restore point!" I went to restore it, and discovered that for some unknown reason Windows only saves one restore point. This wouldn't have been a problem, except that Windows had decided to fuck itself up, and then automatically overwrite the manual save point with it's own save point from immediately after it fucked itself up, leaving that as the only thing to restore to.

                I then quite sensibly formatted the drive and went back to using Linux.

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                • krolden@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

                  I'd be so bold as to say about 90% of windows business users are only using it for office/excel/outlook

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                  Kind of felt like that before I retired. IT put so much shit on my computer that it was about all it was good for. One reason I retire, feedup with the BS form IT.

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                  • golden_zealot@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

                    Possibly, though I would be surprised. I only recently got this job so the laptop is brand new, but I have also had it long enough that it was an odd and unexpected event, before then I had not had any power issues.

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                    I see enough weird behavior out of the Dells at work and their USB-C docks so I can believe it. Not detecting the dock, not charging from the dock, ports not working on the dock, randomly insisting the dock isn't compatible. Even the machines that end up as folding desktops that never get disconnected from their dock end up doing this stuff.

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                    • makingstuffforfun@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                      Oh, hell no. We are absolutely tiny.

                      It's very much a trust-based situation as we all work together and in a small team.

                      I would actually love to know how to handle remote shutdown of PCs and lock out and things like that, for as we do grow, we are getting busier, and starting to expand.

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                      Canonical Landscape, RedHat Satellite, SUSE Manager and Foreman to name a few.

                      I think Foreman is the only one not tied to an Enterprise subscriptions and supporting more than one distro, but I could be wrong.

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                        NDCNSNNTS2

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                        And consonants too
                        :::

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                        YMNVWLSRHT?

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                        You means vowels, right?
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                          I recently had a spare machine sitting around doing nothing and was feeling a bit masochistic, so I decided to install Windows 11 on it just to see what it was like. I've used Windows 10 a tiny bit but essentially haven't touched Windows in years. A couple of the fun things I noticed:

                          • After installing, I was going to set a new wallpaper. I double-clicked on a jpeg file and instead of opening it, it popped up with a window asking me what I wanted to do with this apparently unknown file type. I literally said out loud, "what do you mean, it's a fucking jpeg." Then it did the same thing for a .zip.

                          • I also made a restore point once I had all the basics installed, so I could roll back when Windows inevitably fucked up doing an update. I then did the first big update and it fucked it up. "No worries" I thought, "I made a restore point!" I went to restore it, and discovered that for some unknown reason Windows only saves one restore point. This wouldn't have been a problem, except that Windows had decided to fuck itself up, and then automatically overwrite the manual save point with it's own save point from immediately after it fucked itself up, leaving that as the only thing to restore to.

                          I then quite sensibly formatted the drive and went back to using Linux.

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                          One similar thing happened to me on windows 8 (except I wasn't testing it, I lost everything on my pc that day), so it's not even a new type of issue. Even windows 10 was fucked, had a friend who never used bitlocker, never even knew it was a thing, who got his pc encrypted by it after an update, unable to unlock the damn thing, every solutions failed and had no other choice but to wipe his drive. It's crazy how bad and unpractical windows can be.

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                            What is AOVPN?

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                            Allway On VPN

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                              Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                              Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                              Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                              So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                              There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                              We have to use Windows at work for our high end CAD. There's no FOSS alternative.

                              I use Linux at home. Which is basically a, less crap, copy of Windows. But is still missing important stuff.

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                                We have to use Windows at work for our high end CAD. There's no FOSS alternative.

                                I use Linux at home. Which is basically a, less crap, copy of Windows. But is still missing important stuff.

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                                For 3D CAD I don't think there is a good alternative to Solidworks or Autodesk ones but for my company uses BricsCAD which is available on linux (debian/ubuntu) and is almost as good as AutoCAD, it's basically a copy so skills are quite transferable and it is cheaper also.

                                I see it as the Da Vinci Resolve of 2D CAD

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                                • aelis@lemm.eeA [email protected]

                                  One similar thing happened to me on windows 8 (except I wasn't testing it, I lost everything on my pc that day), so it's not even a new type of issue. Even windows 10 was fucked, had a friend who never used bitlocker, never even knew it was a thing, who got his pc encrypted by it after an update, unable to unlock the damn thing, every solutions failed and had no other choice but to wipe his drive. It's crazy how bad and unpractical windows can be.

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                                  Win lows 10 did the exact same bit locker crap to my best friend and attorney.

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                                    For 3D CAD I don't think there is a good alternative to Solidworks or Autodesk ones but for my company uses BricsCAD which is available on linux (debian/ubuntu) and is almost as good as AutoCAD, it's basically a copy so skills are quite transferable and it is cheaper also.

                                    I see it as the Da Vinci Resolve of 2D CAD

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                                    Great. But AutoCAD and Solidworks are not high end CAD. Acceptable for some I guess. But we need serious CAD.

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                                      Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                                      Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                                      Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                                      So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                                      There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                                      A month ago, a windows update made my laptop crawl to a stop. It needed 2-3 hours to respond after a restart/shutdown. It would crash saying the search wasn't initialised, I couldn't type into the search. Fucking nightmare

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                                      • golden_zealot@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

                                        I unplugged my company issued Windows 11 Dell laptop from its charger yesterday so that I could go ask a manager a question in their office, and the entire computer just shut the fuck off despite having full charge. I'm so glad I moved all my personal stuff to Linux.

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                                        Heh that's a hardware issue.

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                                          24h2 is now a forced upgrade

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                                          Afaik there's a GPO for that

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