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Zelensky says he doesn't think he did anything wrong after public spat with Trump

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  • R [email protected]

    The answer to the suit question should have been like, "Russia destroyed my suit and Ukraine's tailors are too busy sewing up wounds to spend time making a new one."

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    I think his actual reply was even better

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    • spacecowboy@lemmy.caS [email protected]

      What are you talking about? NATO air power alone (even without the US) would absolutely demolish what's left of the Russian military. Why are you talking about conscription in NATO countries?

      Besides that, if Russia had its way we'd all wind up being conscripted into Putin's army and sent into the meat grinder for the sake of his imperial ambitions.

      I think you need to take a break from Russian state media for a few hours, you're currently living in a bizarro fantasy world and are unable to have a conversation with people living in the real world.

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      NATO air power alone (even without the US) would absolutely demolish what’s left of the Russian military. Why are you talking about conscription in NATO countries?

      To replace similar with similar. Don't move the goalposts. Point is - in my opinion enough Ukrainians have died and every westerner who wants further fighting should protest for their country to enter war.

      So where's that NATO air power? If it's nowhere to be seen, then Ukrainians better think what's better realistically for themselves, not try to entertain cowards.

      Besides that, if Russia had its way we’d all wind up being conscripted into Putin’s army and sent into the meat grinder for the sake of his imperial ambitions.

      WDYM Russia had its way, "its way" is to destroy a (half) Russian-speaking country near it so that Russians wouldn't see an alternative daily that doesn't live based on Soviet mob rules. Why would a regime built on selling resources want to conquer its buyers? Who are still its buyers indirectly and sometimes directly, that's why they are not entering war.

      I think you need to take a break from Russian state media for a few hours,

      I think I'll do without your advice on anything at all, you are not intelligent enough. Russian state media is something I ignore since being 12.

      you’re currently living in a bizarro fantasy world and are unable to have a conversation with people living in the real world.

      Your comment has literally nothing to do with what I wrote because you are a coward and invent things to accuse me of.

      Your country is not in war. Ukraine is in war and has suffered big human losses. Why are you not protesting for your country to enter war?

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      • M [email protected]

        You cannot come up with a reason for Zelenski to play along in this "scripted interview", yet you're convinced it was actually planned? Isn't there a way simpler explanation here, given the two idiots he was sitting next to?

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        yet you’re convinced it was actually planned?

        The thing before the journalists is not all of their meeting and not the longest part. It's usually intended to officially present results. So yes.

        I'm also convinced Zelensky's look in a sweater and sneakers is always planned. You can't maintain that over a few years consistently if it really was a result of some tight schedule of a wartime leader or whatever. Such a person could be forgetting to shave sometimes, but not to the same degree every day, LOL. So those making fun of it are right, it's not that PR weren't important, it's really part of his job, not worse than Trump in any case, but he should put more effort.

        You cannot come up with a reason for Zelenski to play along in this “scripted interview”,

        It's usually scripted in this particular kind of situation. Why are you putting quotes here as if you were completely ignorant of the process and thinking I wrote something strange, I don't know. Diplomacy is a very ritualized part of reality.

        Isn’t there a way simpler explanation here, given the two idiots he was sitting next to?

        I gave you the simpler explanation, what I wrote is literally the simpler explanation!

        Idiots don't raise to such power. Even Idi Amin and Bokassa and Gaddafi were not idiots.

        That's the whole point, all three people in that video are very intelligent, if immoral. It's almost impossible for them to lack self-control enough to have a conflict before cameras.

        For an idiot in power see Pashinyan, but I'm not convinced about him either.

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        • D [email protected]

          He made Trump seem like an asshole yes. And that's why he's cooked . Trump is not going to support Ukraine going forward because Zelensky made him look bad. You have to appeal to the child to get anything from him.

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          Nah, it's too late for that. Other leaders are starting learn this too. You keep giving in so Trump asks for more, and then more. Nothing will ever be enough for him.

          This is no longer about swallowing your pride and appealing to his enormous ego.

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            He made Trump seem like an asshole yes. And that's why he's cooked . Trump is not going to support Ukraine going forward because Zelensky made him look bad. You have to appeal to the child to get anything from him.

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            He cannot get anything from Trump no matter what happens. Trump is beholden to Putin.

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            • A [email protected]

              As an American I think he did…. He forgot to slap Trump in the face.

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              We all know liberals would fall all over themselves to try and beat right wingers to the virtue signaling of insisting how bad they think it is.

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              • jballs@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                Exactly, it was all a setup to push the narrative that Ukraine doesn't respect the Oval Office. Same reason Couch Fucker Vance kept saying "you haven't even said thank you once."

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                Which is a blatant lie because Zelensky has thanked the US many times.... But that was under Biden.

                They wanted more thank you and possibly a genuflection.

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                • R [email protected]

                  We all know liberals would fall all over themselves to try and beat right wingers to the virtue signaling of insisting how bad they think it is.

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                  damn truest shit ever said

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                    And they were pissed he didn't wear a suit 🤣

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                    The only situation where Kash Patel would have had useful input!

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                    • D [email protected]

                      He made Trump seem like an asshole yes. And that's why he's cooked . Trump is not going to support Ukraine going forward because Zelensky made him look bad. You have to appeal to the child to get anything from him.

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                      Giving into a toddler who is throwing a tantrum, is not how you get what you want from a toddler .

                      It's how you get more tantrums.

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                      • M [email protected]

                        I think his actual reply was even better

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                        It was SO GOOD! "I'll wear a costume after the war, maybe something like yours"

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                        • K [email protected]

                          I understand why he didn't, obviously, but the whole time I watched that happen all I could think was, "PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE"

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                          I assume he must have gone back to his hotel room afterwards and just screamed in frustration for a solid hour. Or had a workout of with a punching bag with Trump and Vance's faces on them.

                          I'm truly astounded at the patience he showed during that event. It was infuriating to watch.

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                          • S [email protected]

                            It was SO GOOD! "I'll wear a costume after the war, maybe something like yours"

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                            "Maybe something cheaper"

                            Subtle dig, I'm sure it went way over their head.

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                              Nah bud, you good. It's the other jackasses in the meeting that were in the wrong.

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                              • S [email protected]

                                It was SO GOOD! "I'll wear a costume after the war, maybe something like yours"

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                                It’s funny because I’m sure he didn’t mean to be as snarky in that comment. “Costume” means “suit” in Ukrainian and Russian.

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                                  He told the truth. Normally that is fine, but not in a room with a despot like Trump. So yea, that's a big whoopsie when you are trying to win a war. Zelensky is a great guy, and a terrible politician.

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                                  • V [email protected]

                                    So all the European leaders are saying they stand with Ukraine. However that's nothing but "thoughts and prayers" until they bloody do something. Get some boots on the ground or planes in the air. Do something!

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                                    EU peacekeeps along the Belarus border. Free up Ukrainian units for the front line.

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                                    • C [email protected]

                                      I saw that Pz Zelenskyy also thanked America for hosting him, as if he'd been calmly met by a proper head of state.

                                      It takes a special kind of statesman to be blindsided by two half-wit kids and harangued on TV and then treat it as if it was business as usual.

                                      Remember that Pz Zelenskyy is not your typical politician: he's a comedian who won the seat. How is it that this Everyman is more a leader and a collaborator, and those two are clowns out of the slow car?

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                                      It is because he is an Everyman. People who have lived among the ordinary folk, is much more likely to understand the world as it actually is. Dipshits like Trump and Elon never had to deal with bills or consequences, just the difficult decision of which supermodel to pork on a given day.

                                      Here's hoping that the Free States of America gets a Zelensky.

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                                      • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                                        He didn't. He was the only adult there.

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                                        B-b-but he didn't wear a SUIT! The horror.

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                                          Most Americans that watched it don't think he did anything wrong, either. Even a lot of conservatives think Trump's behavior was disgraceful.

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