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Brazilian court gives Apple 90 days to allow sideloading on iOS.

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  • H [email protected]

    Hopefully the court was clever enought to specify that the side loading must not be more difficult than installing via the store. Apple will for sure make it as complicated and user hostile as possible so they fulfill the ruling without having any practical impact.

    abfarid@startrek.websiteA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Technically, sideloading is possible already, but you need a developer account, you're limited to 3 sideloaded apps at a time, and you have to renew them every week.

    So the more difficult way already exists.

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      Well you don't have to, but it's always good to have options

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      Obviously. Better to own an android to sideload apps. More freedom there.

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      • winterfrost@lemm.eeW [email protected]

        Obviously. Better to own an android to sideload apps. More freedom there.

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        More freedom would be to choose the phone you want and sideload whatever you want to it.

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        • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          I’ve beeen an Apple user long enough to remember when “sideloading” was called “installing software.”

          Enshittification is subtle and started long before we realized. Weird nerds who wanted power over skill corrupted the internet back in the late 90s.

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          Man. I miss the FOSS Ios scene. I can’t believe that used to exist. Now it’s just a couple straggler apps and sideloading is a massive pain in the arse and jailbreaking is pretty much impossible.

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          • abfarid@startrek.websiteA [email protected]

            Technically, sideloading is possible already, but you need a developer account, you're limited to 3 sideloaded apps at a time, and you have to renew them every week.

            So the more difficult way already exists.

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            There are ways without the dev account (faked certificate), but if you use a VPN, or update your Os, apple will blacklist your device. And you also need to have some very specific DNS settings blocking a bunch of apple domains. @[email protected] is an expert.

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            • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

              I’ve beeen an Apple user long enough to remember when “sideloading” was called “installing software.”

              Enshittification is subtle and started long before we realized. Weird nerds who wanted power over skill corrupted the internet back in the late 90s.

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              Sideloading (is supposed to) mean just transferring files between local devices, as in, you aren't uploading or downloading them, you are going sideways. E.g you download a song to your pc, then sideload it to your mp3 player.

              That's also where it comes to installing phone apps, as you transfer the app file to the phone yourself.

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              • winterfrost@lemm.eeW [email protected]

                Obviously. Better to own an android to sideload apps. More freedom there.

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                That's the whole point, to force iPhone to also have freedom.

                Android is becoming less free every year; the more Apple gets away with, the closer Android/Google will drift towards it.

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                  Ok, but what about game consoles? I don’t like how Nintendo is abusing their dominant position in the software distribution for the Switch.

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                  • winterfrost@lemm.eeW [email protected]

                    I don't want to sidelode anything on my iPhone.

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                    then don't.

                    it's not something your being forced to do. it's the lifting of an unnecessary restriction that in turn gives you more power on your device.

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                      More freedom would be to choose the phone you want and sideload whatever you want to it.

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                      Freedom comes with a cost. I'm sure Apple will find a way to earn big bucks from this sideloading of app thing.

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                      • powermaker450@discuss.tchncs.deP [email protected]

                        then don't.

                        it's not something your being forced to do. it's the lifting of an unnecessary restriction that in turn gives you more power on your device.

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                        iOS is so closed source I don't think Apple is gonna give us that freedom!!

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                        • H [email protected]

                          Hopefully the court was clever enought to specify that the side loading must not be more difficult than installing via the store. Apple will for sure make it as complicated and user hostile as possible so they fulfill the ruling without having any practical impact.

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                          This will not fly here. It' will be considered "bad faith" and will incur in penalties.

                          They'll probably try tho, CADE will protest and the judge will make an adjustment to the rulling.

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                          • H [email protected]

                            That's the whole point, to force iPhone to also have freedom.

                            Android is becoming less free every year; the more Apple gets away with, the closer Android/Google will drift towards it.

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                            I remember jailbreaking used to be a thing on iPhone then Apple slowly integrated the jailbreak features into iPhone. Then slowly jailbreaking died, I mean not literally dead but people are now unfamiliar with that thing.

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                            • T [email protected]

                              Brazil is really doing something together with the EU. Maybe the two should cooperate more.

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                              Like this?

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                              • winterfrost@lemm.eeW [email protected]

                                iOS is so closed source I don't think Apple is gonna give us that freedom!!

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                                If they don't then they might lose the Brazilian market and who knows what comes after. It's less about what Apple wants to do and more about what they might be forced to do.

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                                  Ok, but what about game consoles? I don’t like how Nintendo is abusing their dominant position in the software distribution for the Switch.

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                                  Yeah, i went Steam in stead, Nintendo makes my skin crawl with disgust.

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                                  • A [email protected]

                                    If they don't then they might lose the Brazilian market and who knows what comes after. It's less about what Apple wants to do and more about what they might be forced to do.

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                                    They'll comply for sure but at what cost, that's the thing to watch.

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                                    • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                      I’ve beeen an Apple user long enough to remember when “sideloading” was called “installing software.”

                                      Enshittification is subtle and started long before we realized. Weird nerds who wanted power over skill corrupted the internet back in the late 90s.

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                                      Enshittification is subtle and started long before we realized.

                                      No it didn't , lot of folks have been banging on about it for decades.

                                      Like privacy, most peole dont give a shit until it's too late and then say but no body said anything.

                                      I've been screaming into the void from the mid '90s.

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                                      • winterfrost@lemm.eeW [email protected]

                                        Freedom comes with a cost. I'm sure Apple will find a way to earn big bucks from this sideloading of app thing.

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                                        This is how brain-broken capitalism has made people... The concept of an effective government actually regulating a company and forcing them to spend more money to do the thing they should be doing is just completely foreign to you.

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                                        • winterfrost@lemm.eeW [email protected]

                                          I remember jailbreaking used to be a thing on iPhone then Apple slowly integrated the jailbreak features into iPhone. Then slowly jailbreaking died, I mean not literally dead but people are now unfamiliar with that thing.

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                                          What's the problem? Should those features only be available to people who know about jailbreaking? It seems like the pressure caused Apple to actually spend some money to add useful features that people obviously wanted. What's the bad thing here?

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