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Trump is giving Russian cyber ops a free pass – and putting western democracy on the line.

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  • tea@programming.devT [email protected]

    The Kremlin has long sought to sow chaos using ‘information confrontation’. That job just got a lot easier

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    OK so let's use ruzzian GPS so they can map our country correctly before invading us.

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    • tea@programming.devT [email protected]

      The Kremlin has long sought to sow chaos using ‘information confrontation’. That job just got a lot easier

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      Trump working with the Russians is not news.

      Every country does need to get their shit together yesterday though.

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        Sorry for breaking this to you, but USA is no longer part of the western democracy.

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        we'll see in 4 years. Their next election, if they have one, will be the test.

        All of donald's executive orders can be undone in a day. Wonder why he doesn't try to make real change using Republican majorities 🤷

        probably because he doesn't care about the U.S., he is there to make money and he got his "get out of jail" card

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          Trump working with the Russians is not news.

          Every country does need to get their shit together yesterday though.

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          You mean Russian Oligarch and President of The United States Donald Trump works with Putin? I never./s

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            You mean Russian Oligarch and President of The United States Donald Trump works with Putin? I never./s

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            It's funny because you said "works with" and not "owned like a dog by". haha

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              That's a large part of why I avoid Lemmy.ml. That's not all of them though.

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              It's not all of them, but it's enough to influence idiots.

              Like people seriously underestimate Russian disinfo and cyber warfare.

              You'll find Russians absolutely fucking everywhere.

              People exactly like Davel.

              I had a similar moron on Ireland discord claim he's native born Irish, I taunted him to voice channel and when he spoke it was a very heavy Russian accent, and bro didn't even know what a limerick is.

              It's beyond easy to catch poorly educated Ruskis playing westerners if you keep any wits about you.

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                Are another two just off the top of my head.

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                Yep, definitely agree with those.

                US community on Midwest.social is also Russian modded. I got to admit, it's not entirely stupid of Russia to try and go to as many non-official official servers they can. Like Ireland on Discord, US News/Politics on Lemmy and through modding those communities, control the way the rhetoric leans.

                It's just annoying how many people won't recognise that and instead but into all of it

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                • dasus@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                  Yep, definitely agree with those.

                  US community on Midwest.social is also Russian modded. I got to admit, it's not entirely stupid of Russia to try and go to as many non-official official servers they can. Like Ireland on Discord, US News/Politics on Lemmy and through modding those communities, control the way the rhetoric leans.

                  It's just annoying how many people won't recognise that and instead but into all of it

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                  The sad thing is that a good amount of these guys aren't actually working for the state. A lot of them are actually immigrants who left Russia for more opportunities, but are still rampant nationalist attempting to damage the countries that gave them a new home.

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                  • merde@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                    we'll see in 4 years. Their next election, if they have one, will be the test.

                    All of donald's executive orders can be undone in a day. Wonder why he doesn't try to make real change using Republican majorities 🤷

                    probably because he doesn't care about the U.S., he is there to make money and he got his "get out of jail" card

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                    No we won't. This shit is done. Elon and Putin stole this shit. And until there are audits, I will continue screaming into the void.

                    https://youtu.be/AWSWqn7UHYM?si=DO202X2NRRVRbVVQ

                    There are a bunch of votes that were down ballot dem, but for president votes went to Trump. The thought is that they were changed with an algorithm

                    The Doge guy made ballot reading software in 2020 that had a write function. Like trump said, "Elon is really good with those vote counting computers," and Elon's kid said "they'll never know"

                    https://bsky.app/profile/denisedwheeler.bsky.social/post/3lhowh3ijgs2f

                    Elon and Trump were facing jail if they didn't pull this off. Now we have a government full of lackeys with their heads in the sand who won't even bother looking at it. Trump had talked to Putin 7 times before the election. He and Elon likely set up a quid pro quo deal where Putin helped them steal the election to get the US out of Ukraine

                    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-on-calling-putin/

                    We are fucking cooked, and I'm trying to gtfo

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                      It's funny because you said "works with" and not "owned like a dog by". haha

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                      Lol fair

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                        The sad thing is that a good amount of these guys aren't actually working for the state. A lot of them are actually immigrants who left Russia for more opportunities, but are still rampant nationalist attempting to damage the countries that gave them a new home.

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                        Oh yeah definitely most aren't hired state actors. Just perpetuating the bullshit.

                        I don't know how many people in the line there are but basically Russia wants something to lean in a certain direction, so they spread all fucking sorts on purpose with a small amount of people. But as I've said, it's incredibly easy to get non-official official things online. Like claim an artist, a country, a community of anything that's already popular, on any platform, and then pretend to #1 be that kind of person, but constantly feed in the opinions you want to bend.

                        A dozen, two dozen people like that actually doing it as a job will make a huge fucking wave if utilised properly. And I've no idea of the numbers Russians have plus all the botnets and simps and then at the bottom of the line, the American MAGAt aping shit they read on those platforms, thinking they're "just saying what everyone is thinking" while actually aping Russian propaganda.

                        Hate to say it but goddamn America needs a little bit more fear towards Russia. The whole world has pretty much written off Russia since Ukraine actually stood up to them and Russia didn't just blitzkrieg through.

                        But everyone has forgotten what they're really good at. It's not the bullying border neighbours, that's just their hobby. Their profession is spycraft and disinfo.

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                        • tea@programming.devT [email protected]

                          The Kremlin has long sought to sow chaos using ‘information confrontation’. That job just got a lot easier

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                          To me it looks like the government say they are halting operations but actually aren't

                          https://www.itamilradar.com/2025/03/05/aerial-surveillance-operations-intense-activity-in-the-skies-of-romania-and-the-black-sea/

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                          • dasus@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                            I've been talking about it for quote a long time.

                            Lemmy for one is infested with Russian pretending to be American.

                            Davel and a hundred others [email protected]

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                            Lemmy for one is infested with Russian pretending to be American.

                            Everyone you don't like is a russian troll, to be honest i've yet to meet someone on lemmy that is actually from russia.

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                            • dasus@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                              It's not all of them, but it's enough to influence idiots.

                              Like people seriously underestimate Russian disinfo and cyber warfare.

                              You'll find Russians absolutely fucking everywhere.

                              People exactly like Davel.

                              I had a similar moron on Ireland discord claim he's native born Irish, I taunted him to voice channel and when he spoke it was a very heavy Russian accent, and bro didn't even know what a limerick is.

                              It's beyond easy to catch poorly educated Ruskis playing westerners if you keep any wits about you.

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                              Like people seriously underestimate Russian disinfo and cyber warfare.

                              You’ll find Russians absolutely fucking everywhere.

                              If you see russians everywhere you are probably underestimating american disinfo and cyber warfare. USA has the most powerful and technological advanced army in the world and they spend 10 times more in war than russia. For every russian agent you see expect there to be at last 1 american.

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                                Like people seriously underestimate Russian disinfo and cyber warfare.

                                You’ll find Russians absolutely fucking everywhere.

                                If you see russians everywhere you are probably underestimating american disinfo and cyber warfare. USA has the most powerful and technological advanced army in the world and they spend 10 times more in war than russia. For every russian agent you see expect there to be at last 1 american.

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                                Yes hello.

                                I was waiting for one of you to turn up.

                                Don't think I be forgotten your nickname.

                                Nice strawmanning, but "on every platform" =/= "everywhere."

                                Thanks for the case in point, comrade!

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                                  Lemmy for one is infested with Russian pretending to be American.

                                  Everyone you don't like is a russian troll, to be honest i've yet to meet someone on lemmy that is actually from russia.

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                                  The people who are too scared of saying "Putin is breaking international law with the illegal invasion of Ukraine and is a war criminal and should be tried for his crimes", or even "Putin is a criminal" or "Putin is wrong" or "Russia was wrong to invade Ukraine", the people who never utter a single detail about themselves (except when claiming to be "born&bred American") but constantly comment on American politics, and each of their comments aligns with Russian propaganda?

                                  Yeah, it's not "everyone", sweetums. ❤

                                  If you guys drank less and read more as a people you wouldn't be ridiculed so bad. Now it's like genuinely ridiculous how unaware you are of how fucking see-through you are.

                                  It's ludicrous. I would laugh if it the Americans also weren't so stupid that you actually managed to put an agent at their head of state. Because that is actually worrying.

                                  Russia itself is weak and backwards as fuck but if they manage to mangle the US, Russia+China will give Europe a running for our money.

                                  Don't worry, toveri, mä oon rajal sua vastas.

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                                    Yes hello.

                                    I was waiting for one of you to turn up.

                                    Don't think I be forgotten your nickname.

                                    Nice strawmanning, but "on every platform" =/= "everywhere."

                                    Thanks for the case in point, comrade!

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                                    Believe what you want i'm simply pointing out the obvious, if you only see russia propaganda around and none from the west ask yourself a question.

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                                    • dasus@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                      The people who are too scared of saying "Putin is breaking international law with the illegal invasion of Ukraine and is a war criminal and should be tried for his crimes", or even "Putin is a criminal" or "Putin is wrong" or "Russia was wrong to invade Ukraine", the people who never utter a single detail about themselves (except when claiming to be "born&bred American") but constantly comment on American politics, and each of their comments aligns with Russian propaganda?

                                      Yeah, it's not "everyone", sweetums. ❤

                                      If you guys drank less and read more as a people you wouldn't be ridiculed so bad. Now it's like genuinely ridiculous how unaware you are of how fucking see-through you are.

                                      It's ludicrous. I would laugh if it the Americans also weren't so stupid that you actually managed to put an agent at their head of state. Because that is actually worrying.

                                      Russia itself is weak and backwards as fuck but if they manage to mangle the US, Russia+China will give Europe a running for our money.

                                      Don't worry, toveri, mä oon rajal sua vastas.

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                                      You are accusing me of being a russian troll for a simple reply to your comment

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                                        You are accusing me of being a russian troll for a simple reply to your comment

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                                        Dude wee had this chat like a dozen times.

                                        Here's how it'll go.

                                        I point out your shitty rhetoric. You equivocate. I ask if you wouldn't mind confirming Putin is a warcriminal, you get scared of being thrown out of a window and don't reply, then I point out how you're a little scaredycat, afraid of saying "Putin is a smalldicked dictator", then you pretend "I already said it" (when you never did.)

                                        Then I point that out and you run away as usual

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                                          Believe what you want i'm simply pointing out the obvious, if you only see russia propaganda around and none from the west ask yourself a question.

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                                          Ask a question... like; would you mind confirming Putin is a warcriminal and a sad bald bastard?

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