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Signal's Meredith Whittaker says AI agents doing tasks on users' behalf pose security and privacy risks and refers to their use as “putting your brain in a jar”.

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    It's available on F-droid through the Guardian Project repo.

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    since when? that's good news to me!

    the alternatives seem to be Molly on the main repo and Signal-FOSS on TwinHelix's

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      since when? that's good news to me!

      the alternatives seem to be Molly on the main repo and Signal-FOSS on TwinHelix's

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      Showed up maybe a month ago?

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        This is the primary reason I've not given agents more power than something extremely controlled (I.e. only a function to turn on/off the lights). As I was always concerned that these generational models might accidentally do something dumb or annoying, let alone something that might be illegal or harmful.

        I don't really see how anyone would ask AI to complete something completely autonomously at this stage, without oversight.

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        Good for image classification and tagging to automate sorting all the images off my phone. Some fun chatbots to soundboard ideas off. Anything involving credit cards, bank details, personal info near the internet? That's a big nope.

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          "A computer can never be held accountable - therefore a computer must never make a management decision". - IBM Training manual, 1979.

          So jazzed to live here in the future where we have AI making insurance denials and deciding drone targets! /s

          Good on her for standing against the Silicon Valley doom hype machine.

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            AI autoresponders are developing into artificial personas that interact with the world on our behalf, which we won't even pay attention to until the police show up because one of them threatened to assassinate the president or something, and we'll say, "That wasn't me," and they'll be like yuh-huh it was.

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              "A computer can never be held accountable - therefore a computer must never make a management decision". - IBM Training manual, 1979.

              So jazzed to live here in the future where we have AI making insurance denials and deciding drone targets! /s

              Good on her for standing against the Silicon Valley doom hype machine.

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              "We'll do like the spreadsheet says." - My manager's director-level boss, 1994

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                Showed up maybe a month ago?

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                I've just seen it. I suppose Signal-FOSS has the same signature, since I can choose between the two repos on its F-Droid panel

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                  Why Signal is not in f-droid? Is there a statement from them about it? What I know is only in Google store . And talking to much about privacy and not being in a f-droid repo, is ironic

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                  actually, years ago there was a long drawn out drama about people in Signal's team refusing to publish on F-Droid because of "security concerns" in Moxie's time. IIRC they worked to take down builds on the main repo

                  you can probably still find the old github threads with the lenghty discussions

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                    It's available on F-droid through the Guardian Project repo.

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                    Yes that's correct, is listed in guardian project but with big red flags anti-featires, heavy thetered services with Google

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                      actually, years ago there was a long drawn out drama about people in Signal's team refusing to publish on F-Droid because of "security concerns" in Moxie's time. IIRC they worked to take down builds on the main repo

                      you can probably still find the old github threads with the lenghty discussions

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                      I didn't know, Thanks for the info . Well nowadays f-droid is a standard for privacy . They should reconsider

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                        That’s taking my comment waaayyy to serieus

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                        Hey, you asked. What part of your comment do you feel is being taken way too seriously?

                        It's easier to (figuratively) say "You guys are just not understanding my comment. It's all of you who are wrong!" than to just take a second and understand why people don't like what you commented earlier.

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                          "A computer can never be held accountable - therefore a computer must never make a management decision". - IBM Training manual, 1979.

                          So jazzed to live here in the future where we have AI making insurance denials and deciding drone targets! /s

                          Good on her for standing against the Silicon Valley doom hype machine.

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                          Source on the quote?

                          It's so apt for our time @.@

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