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New survey suggests the vast majority of iPhone and Samsung Galaxy users find AI useless – and I’m not surprised

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  • L [email protected]

    Profit potential. Think of AI as one big data collector to sell you shit. It is significantly better at learning things about you than any metadata or cookies ever could.

    If you think of this AI push as "trying to make a better product" it will not make much sense. If you think of the AI push as "how do I collect more data on all my users and better directly influence their choices" it makes a lot more sense.

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    Well, that's depressing. Where's my Star Trek future?

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      A survey of more than 2,000 smartphone users by second-hand smartphone marketplace SellCell found that 73% of iPhone users and a whopping 87% of Samsung Galaxy users felt that AI adds little to no value to their smartphone experience.

      SellCell only surveyed users with an AI-enabled phone – thats an iPhone 15 Pro or newer or a Galaxy S22 or newer. The survey doesn’t give an exact sample size, but more than 1,000 iPhone users and more than 1,000 Galaxy users were involved.

      Further findings show that most users of either platform would not pay for an AI subscription: 86.5% of iPhone users and 94.5% of Galaxy users would refuse to pay for continued access to AI features.

      From the data listed so far, it seems that people just aren’t using AI. In the case of both iPhone and Galaxy users about two-fifths of those surveyed have tried AI features – 41.6% for iPhone and 46.9% for Galaxy.

      So, that’s a majority of users not even bothering with AI in the first place and a general disinterest in AI features from the user base overall, despite both Apple and Samsung making such a big deal out of AI.

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      Am I crazy? I’ve got this thing writing code and listing website listings. I ask it certain things before Google and just have it give me the source. I use it to sum up huge documents to quickly analyze them before I go through them. Feels like how Google felt I when it first came out. Yall using the same ai?

      (Apple ai is not what I’m talking about)

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        A survey of more than 2,000 smartphone users by second-hand smartphone marketplace SellCell found that 73% of iPhone users and a whopping 87% of Samsung Galaxy users felt that AI adds little to no value to their smartphone experience.

        SellCell only surveyed users with an AI-enabled phone – thats an iPhone 15 Pro or newer or a Galaxy S22 or newer. The survey doesn’t give an exact sample size, but more than 1,000 iPhone users and more than 1,000 Galaxy users were involved.

        Further findings show that most users of either platform would not pay for an AI subscription: 86.5% of iPhone users and 94.5% of Galaxy users would refuse to pay for continued access to AI features.

        From the data listed so far, it seems that people just aren’t using AI. In the case of both iPhone and Galaxy users about two-fifths of those surveyed have tried AI features – 41.6% for iPhone and 46.9% for Galaxy.

        So, that’s a majority of users not even bothering with AI in the first place and a general disinterest in AI features from the user base overall, despite both Apple and Samsung making such a big deal out of AI.

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        It actually made my Google speakers assistant dumber because I think they're trying to merge the 2

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          A survey of more than 2,000 smartphone users by second-hand smartphone marketplace SellCell found that 73% of iPhone users and a whopping 87% of Samsung Galaxy users felt that AI adds little to no value to their smartphone experience.

          SellCell only surveyed users with an AI-enabled phone – thats an iPhone 15 Pro or newer or a Galaxy S22 or newer. The survey doesn’t give an exact sample size, but more than 1,000 iPhone users and more than 1,000 Galaxy users were involved.

          Further findings show that most users of either platform would not pay for an AI subscription: 86.5% of iPhone users and 94.5% of Galaxy users would refuse to pay for continued access to AI features.

          From the data listed so far, it seems that people just aren’t using AI. In the case of both iPhone and Galaxy users about two-fifths of those surveyed have tried AI features – 41.6% for iPhone and 46.9% for Galaxy.

          So, that’s a majority of users not even bothering with AI in the first place and a general disinterest in AI features from the user base overall, despite both Apple and Samsung making such a big deal out of AI.

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          I side graded from a iPhone 12 to an Xperia as a toy to tinker around with recently and I disabled Gemini on my phone not long after it let me join the beta.

          Everything seemed half baked. Not only were the awnsers meh and it felt like an invasion of privacy after reading to user agreement. Gemini can't even play a song on your phone, or get you directions home, what an absolute joke.

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          • M [email protected]

            I used it once. Told it to pretend to be a centaur from Mars and explain how centaur sex works. Pretty fucking funny, but yeah it was a one-off.

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            ....so how does centaur sex work? Don't leave us hanging!

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            • L [email protected]

              AI is not there to be useful for you. It is there to be useful for them. It is a perfect tool for capturing every last little thought you could have and direct to you perfectly on what they can sell you.

              It's basically one big way to sell you shit. I promise we will follow the same path as most tech. It'll be useful for some stuff and in this case it's being heavily forced upon us whether we like it or not. Then it's usefulness will be slowly diminished as it's used more heavily to capitalize on your data, thoughts, writings, code, and learn how to suck every last dollar from you whether you're at work or at home.

              It's why DeepSeek spent so little and works better. They literally were just focusing on the tech.

              All these billions are not just being spent on hardware or better optimized software. They are being spent on finding the best ways to profit from these AI systems. It's why they're being pushed into everything.

              You won't have a choice on whether you want to use it or not. It'll soon by the only way to interact with most systems even if it doesn't make sense.

              Mark my words. When Google stops standard search on their home page and it's a fucking AI chat bot by default. We are not far off from that.

              It's not meant to be useful for you.

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              Yes, it seems like no one even read the damn user agreement. AI just adds another level to our surveillance state. Its only there to collect information about you and to figure out the inner workings of its users minds to sell ads. Gemini even listens to your conversations if you have the quick access toggle enabled.

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                ....so how does centaur sex work? Don't leave us hanging!

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                So first off it spoke like a generic fantasy character with neighing here and there, I didn't think centaurs neighed given that they have a human mouth but whatever. It said it's just like horse sex but there's extra intimacy because of the human torsos. It also said something about the "power and wisdom of Mars".

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                  My kids school just did a survey and part of it included questions about teaching technology with a big focus on the use of AI. My response was "No" full stop. They need to learn how to do traditional research first so that they can spot check the error ridden results generated by AI. Damn it school, get off the bandwagon.

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                  I suppose that's exactly what they should be teaching.

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                    ....so how does centaur sex work? Don't leave us hanging!

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                    And how does breast feeding work? Is it from the human tit or the horse tit?

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                      A survey of more than 2,000 smartphone users by second-hand smartphone marketplace SellCell found that 73% of iPhone users and a whopping 87% of Samsung Galaxy users felt that AI adds little to no value to their smartphone experience.

                      SellCell only surveyed users with an AI-enabled phone – thats an iPhone 15 Pro or newer or a Galaxy S22 or newer. The survey doesn’t give an exact sample size, but more than 1,000 iPhone users and more than 1,000 Galaxy users were involved.

                      Further findings show that most users of either platform would not pay for an AI subscription: 86.5% of iPhone users and 94.5% of Galaxy users would refuse to pay for continued access to AI features.

                      From the data listed so far, it seems that people just aren’t using AI. In the case of both iPhone and Galaxy users about two-fifths of those surveyed have tried AI features – 41.6% for iPhone and 46.9% for Galaxy.

                      So, that’s a majority of users not even bothering with AI in the first place and a general disinterest in AI features from the user base overall, despite both Apple and Samsung making such a big deal out of AI.

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                      It is, for everybody mostly.

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                        I feel like I'm in those years of You really want a 3d TV, right? Right? 3D is what you've been waiting for, right? all over again, but with a different technology.

                        It will be VR's turn again next.

                        I admit I'm really rooting for affordable, real-world, daily-use AR though.

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                          A survey of more than 2,000 smartphone users by second-hand smartphone marketplace SellCell found that 73% of iPhone users and a whopping 87% of Samsung Galaxy users felt that AI adds little to no value to their smartphone experience.

                          SellCell only surveyed users with an AI-enabled phone – thats an iPhone 15 Pro or newer or a Galaxy S22 or newer. The survey doesn’t give an exact sample size, but more than 1,000 iPhone users and more than 1,000 Galaxy users were involved.

                          Further findings show that most users of either platform would not pay for an AI subscription: 86.5% of iPhone users and 94.5% of Galaxy users would refuse to pay for continued access to AI features.

                          From the data listed so far, it seems that people just aren’t using AI. In the case of both iPhone and Galaxy users about two-fifths of those surveyed have tried AI features – 41.6% for iPhone and 46.9% for Galaxy.

                          So, that’s a majority of users not even bothering with AI in the first place and a general disinterest in AI features from the user base overall, despite both Apple and Samsung making such a big deal out of AI.

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                            So first off it spoke like a generic fantasy character with neighing here and there, I didn't think centaurs neighed given that they have a human mouth but whatever. It said it's just like horse sex but there's extra intimacy because of the human torsos. It also said something about the "power and wisdom of Mars".

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                            Amazing, I can finally to sleep now. I shall right this in my diary with great enthusiasm!

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                              99.999% accurate would be pretty useful. Theres plenty of misinformation without AI. Nothing and nobody will be perfect.

                              Trouble is they range from 0-95% accurate depending on the topic and given context while being very confident when they’re wrong.

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                              The problem really isn't the exact percentage, it's the way it behaves.

                              It's trained to never say no. It's trained to never be unsure. In many cases an answer of "You can't do that" or "I don't know how to do that" would be extremely useful. But, instead, it's like an improv performer always saying "yes, and" then maybe just inventing some bullshit.

                              I don't know about you guys, but I frequently end up going down rabbit holes where there are literally zero google results matching what I need. What I'm looking for is so specialized that nobody has taken the time to write up an indexable web page on how to do it. And, that's fine. So, I have to take a step back and figure it out for myself. No big deal. But, Google's "helpful" AI will helpfully generate some completely believable bullshit. It's able to take what I'm searching for and match it to something similar and do some search-and-replace function to make it seem like it would work for me.

                              I'm knowledgeable enough to know that I can just ignore that AI-generated bullshit, but I'm sure there are a lot of other more gullible optimistic people who will take that AI garbage at face value and waste all kinds of time trying to get it working.

                              To me, the best way to explain LLMs is to say that they're these absolutely amazing devices that can be used to generate movie props. You're directing a movie and you want the hero to pull up a legal document submitted to a US federal court? It can generate one in seconds that would take your writers hours. It's so realistic that you could even have your actors look at it and read from it and it will come across as authentic. It can generate extremely realistic code if you want a hacking scene. It can generate something that looks like a lost Shakespeare play, or an intercept from an alien broadcast, or medical charts that look like exactly what you'd see in a hospital.

                              But, just like you'd never take a movie prop and try to use it in real life, you should never actually take LLM output at face value. And that's hard, because it's so convincing.

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                                Am I crazy? I’ve got this thing writing code and listing website listings. I ask it certain things before Google and just have it give me the source. I use it to sum up huge documents to quickly analyze them before I go through them. Feels like how Google felt I when it first came out. Yall using the same ai?

                                (Apple ai is not what I’m talking about)

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                                I also use gen AI for coding assistance and have had an extremely positive experience, but I almost never use it on my smartphone

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                                  And how does breast feeding work? Is it from the human tit or the horse tit?

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                                  finally somebody asking the real questions.

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                                    My kids school just did a survey and part of it included questions about teaching technology with a big focus on the use of AI. My response was "No" full stop. They need to learn how to do traditional research first so that they can spot check the error ridden results generated by AI. Damn it school, get off the bandwagon.

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                                    I say this as an education major, and former teacher. That being said, please keep fighting your PTA on this.

                                    We didn't get actually useful information in high school, partially because our parents didn't think there was anything wrong with the curriculum.

                                    I'm absolutely certain that there are multiple subjects that you may have skipped out on, if you'd had any idea that civics, shop, home economics, and maybe accounting were going to be the closest classes to "real world skills that all non collegate educated people still need to know."

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                                      Tbf most people have no clue how to use it nor even understand what "AI" even is.

                                      I just taught my mom how to use circle to search and it's a real game changer for her. She can quickly lookup on-screen items (like plants shes reading about) from an image and the on-screen translation is incredible.

                                      Also circle to search gets around link and text copy blocking giving you back the same freedoms you had on a PC.

                                      Personally I'd never go back to a phone without circle to search - its so under-rated and a giant shift in smartphone capabilities.

                                      Its very likely that we'll have full live screen reading assistants in the near future which can perform circle to search like functions and even visual modifications live. It's easy to dismiss this as a gimmick but there's a lot of incredible potential here especially for casual and older users.

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                                      Google Lens already did that though, all you need is decent OCR and an image classification model (which is a precursor to the current "AI" hype, but actually useful).

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                                        And how does breast feeding work? Is it from the human tit or the horse tit?

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                                        I deleted the deepseek app, you're gonna have to ask.

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                                          I side graded from a iPhone 12 to an Xperia as a toy to tinker around with recently and I disabled Gemini on my phone not long after it let me join the beta.

                                          Everything seemed half baked. Not only were the awnsers meh and it felt like an invasion of privacy after reading to user agreement. Gemini can't even play a song on your phone, or get you directions home, what an absolute joke.

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                                          Ironically, on my Xperia 1 VI (which I specifically chose as my daily driver because of all the compromises on flagship phones from other brands) I had the only experience where I actually felt like a smartphone feature based on machine learning helped my experience, even though the Sony phones had practically no marketing with the AI buzzwords at all.

                                          Sony actually trained a machine learning model for automatically identifying face and eye location for human and animal subjects in the built-in camera app, in order to be able to keep the face of your subject in focus at all time regardless how they move around. Allegedly it's a very clever solution trained for identifying skeletal position to in turn identify head and eye positions, it works particularly well for when your subject moves around quickly which is where this is especially helpful.

                                          And it works so incredibly well, wayyyyy better than any face tracking I had on any other smartphone or professional camera, it made it so so much easier for me to take photos and videos of my super active kitten and pet mice lol

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