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Cloudflare announces AI Labyrinth, which uses AI-generated content to confuse and waste the resources of AI Crawlers and bots that ignore “no crawl” directives.

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    And this, ladies and gentleman, is how you actually make profits on AI.

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      Spiderman pointing at Spiderman meme.

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        Next step is an AI that detects AI labyrinth.

        It gets trained on labyrinths generated by another AI.

        So you have an AI generating labyrinths to train an AI to detect labyrinths which are generated by another AI so that your original AI crawler doesn't get lost.

        It's gonna be AI all the way down.

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        Yeah that’s how we achieve singularity.

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          Now this is a AI trap worth using. Don't waste your money and resources hosting something yourself, let Cloudflare do it for you if you don't want AI scraping your shit.

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            Relevant excerpt from part 11 of Anathem (2008) by Neal Stephenson:

            ::: spoiler Artificial Inanity
            Note: Reticulum=Internet, syndev=computer, crap~=spam

            “Early in the Reticulum—thousands of years ago—it became almost useless because it was cluttered with faulty, obsolete, or downright misleading information,” Sammann said.

            “Crap, you once called it,” I reminded him.

            “Yes—a technical term. So crap filtering became important. Businesses were built around it. Some of those businesses came up with a clever plan to make more money: they poisoned the well. They began to put crap on the Reticulum deliberately, forcing people to use their products to filter that crap back out. They created syndevs whose sole purpose was to spew crap into the Reticulum. But it had to be good crap.”

            “What is good crap?” Arsibalt asked in a politely incredulous tone.

            “Well, bad crap would be an unformatted document consisting of random letters. Good crap would be a beautifully typeset, well-written document that contained a hundred correct, verifiable sentences and one that was subtly false. It’s a lot harder to generate good crap. At first they had to hire humans to churn it out. They mostly did it by taking legitimate documents and inserting errors—swapping one name for another, say. But it didn’t really take off until the military got interested.”

            “As a tactic for planting misinformation in the enemy’s reticules, you mean,” Osa said. “This I know about. You are referring to the Artificial Inanity programs of the mid–First Millennium A.R.”

            “Exactly!” Sammann said. “Artificial Inanity systems of enormous sophistication and power were built for exactly the purpose Fraa Osa has mentioned. In no time at all, the praxis leaked to the commercial sector and spread to the Rampant Orphan Botnet Ecologies. Never mind. The point is that there was a sort of Dark Age on the Reticulum that lasted until my Ita forerunners were able to bring matters in hand.”

            “So, are Artificial Inanity systems still active in the Rampant Orphan Botnet Ecologies?” asked Arsibalt, utterly fascinated.

            “The ROBE evolved into something totally different early in the Second Millennium,” Sammann said dismissively.

            “What did it evolve into?” Jesry asked.

            “No one is sure,” Sammann said. “We only get hints when it finds ways to physically instantiate itself, which, fortunately, does not happen that often. But we digress. The functionality of Artificial Inanity still exists. You might say that those Ita who brought the Ret out of the Dark Age could only defeat it by co-opting it. So, to make a long story short, for every legitimate document floating around on the Reticulum, there are hundreds or thousands of bogus versions—bogons, as we call them.”

            “The only way to preserve the integrity of the defenses is to subject them to unceasing assault,” Osa said, and any idiot could guess he was quoting some old Vale aphorism.

            “Yes,” Sammann said, “and it works so well that, most of the time, the users of the Reticulum don’t know it’s there. Just as you are not aware of the millions of germs trying and failing to attack your body every moment of every day. However, the recent events, and the stresses posed by the Antiswarm, appear to have introduced the low-level bug that I spoke of.”

            “So the practical consequence for us,” Lio said, “is that—?”

            “Our cells on the ground may be having difficulty distinguishing between legitimate messages and bogons. And some of the messages that flash up on our screens may be bogons as well.”
            :::

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              This is so fucking retarded on so many levels. It's time to regulate the shit out of "AI".

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                I swear someone released this exact thing a few weeks ago

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                We want names

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                  hey look it's that "zip bomb" I mentioned.

                  fuck cloudflare though.

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                    given what domains we're hosted on; i think we've both had a version of this conversation about a thousand times, and both ended up where we ended up. do you want us to explain hypothetically-at-but-mostly-past each other again? I can do it while un-sober, if you like.

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                    I.. Don't think I've heard anyone claim authority shouldn't exist.

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                      Imagine how much power is wasted on this unfortunate necessity.

                      Now imagine how much power will be wasted circumventing it.

                      Fucking clown world we live in

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                        All the while each AI costs more power than a million human beings to run, and the world burns down around us.

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                        The same way they justify cutting benefits for the disabled to balance budgets instead of putting taxes on the rich or just not giving them bailouts, they will justify cutting power to you before a data centre that's 10 corporate AIs all fighting each other, unless we as a people stand up and actually demand change.

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                          Generating content with AI to throw off crawlers. I dread to think of the resources we’re wasting on this utter insanity now.

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                            The same way they justify cutting benefits for the disabled to balance budgets instead of putting taxes on the rich or just not giving them bailouts, they will justify cutting power to you before a data centre that's 10 corporate AIs all fighting each other, unless we as a people stand up and actually demand change.

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                            Vote Blue No Matter Who

                            Any Democrat is Better than Any Republican

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                              Imagine how much power is wasted on this unfortunate necessity.

                              Now imagine how much power will be wasted circumventing it.

                              Fucking clown world we live in

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                              On on hand, yes. On the other...imagine frustration of management of companies making and selling AI services. This is such a sweet thing to imagine.

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                                On on hand, yes. On the other...imagine frustration of management of companies making and selling AI services. This is such a sweet thing to imagine.

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                                My dude, they'll literally sell services to both sides of the market.

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                                  Then get bored when it devolves into a wedge meta.

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                                  Somehow one of them still invents Tombstone.

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                                    I.. Don't think I've heard anyone claim authority shouldn't exist.

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                                    So here's a little bit of lemmy lore for you. You're instance lemmy.ml is considered to be a tankie instance by some users. lemmy.dbzer0.com is an anarchist instance. The user you responded to probably made a generalisation based on this and assumed you were familiar with anarchist/communist/socialist/leftist discourse. From this comment I assume they were wrong.

                                    So on behalf of no-one but myself: Hello! Welcome to Anarchism! The belief that authority should not exist. This belief comes from a lot of different places and wears a lot of different faces. Most short explanations aren't sufficient and long explanation bore most. If you don't mind a little learning here is a link: https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionA.html#seca1 and another one https://crimethinc.com/2016/09/28/feature-the-secret-is-to-begin-getting-started-further-resources-frequently-asked-questions#faq or if you like videos: https://youtu.be/lrTzjaXskUU.

                                    Also a little bit about authority: people use authority to mean many things (this is even bought up in the video I linked above). But as far as anarchists are concerned (in general (no specific statement can be made about a group so vast)) authority is the act of coercing people to follow orders or commit involuntary acts. You're boss can coerce you to neglect your health by threatening to fire you. Your government can force you to obey gender roles by threatening to jail you. A rich person can make you do whatever demeaning thing they want by dangling money in front of you (for reference see mrbeast) because otherwise your landlord will kick you out. This is authority and it is wrong. Those in authority can make mistakes, become greedy and start to think they have the power to do whatever they want (mostly because they can). This leads to suffering. My meaning of life is to minimise suffering. Anarchy is the belief that no-one should hold power over others. That all leadership should be scrutinised. It rejects blind faith in single people and encourages to think for yourself so no-one can do you wrong. And if you can't be bothered, it encourages you to find people who genuinely care about you and let them stand up for you.

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                                      It’s difficult to imagine a group of people voluntarily amassing and then using the resources necessary for “AI” absent the desire to cash in on their investment.

                                      No imagination necessary.

                                      I mean Dmitry Pospelov was arguing for AI control in the Soviet Union clear back in the 70s.

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                                      Just another way the state capitalist soviet union was closer to capitalism than socialism.

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                                        Not who you responded to but yeah I want to hear a drug fuelled rant I don't even care what topic

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                                        Not the one you responded to but how about the tiredness-fuelled rant that I replied to the other person with.

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                                          Somehow one of them still invents Tombstone.

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                                          Putting a chopped down lawnmower blade in front of a thing, and having it spin at harddrive speeds is honestly kinda terrifying....

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