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China unveils a powerful deep-sea cable cutter that could reset the world order

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  • L [email protected]

    If only cables can be designed to pull down ships that try to cut or anchor drag them. Maybe defensive cable around the main cable.

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    That's not how reality works... You can't make the cable pull down the ship. And even if you could they'd just lose the anchor

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      You're like a day behind on the news 😄

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      I knew when I wrote it 🙈

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        A compact, deep-sea, cable-cutting device, capable of severing the world’s most fortified underwater communication or power lines, has been unveiled by China – and it could shake up global maritime power dynamics.

        The revelation marks the first time any country has officially disclosed that it has such an asset, capable of disrupting critical undersea networks.

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        This is why we can't have nice things.

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          A compact, deep-sea, cable-cutting device, capable of severing the world’s most fortified underwater communication or power lines, has been unveiled by China – and it could shake up global maritime power dynamics.

          The revelation marks the first time any country has officially disclosed that it has such an asset, capable of disrupting critical undersea networks.

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          Cool

          So for every European deep sea cable cut it should send a fleet of Russian and Chinese ships to the bottom, torpedo the fuckers. Just by default presume it was either of them and make then responsible for the safety of our cables. If you fail to protect our cables, we'll send your ships to the next life.

          Gloves. Off.

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            A compact, deep-sea, cable-cutting device, capable of severing the world’s most fortified underwater communication or power lines, has been unveiled by China – and it could shake up global maritime power dynamics.

            The revelation marks the first time any country has officially disclosed that it has such an asset, capable of disrupting critical undersea networks.

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            I mean, no? Ok let's say you did cut off the internet, there's still radio. Shortwave still can reach spies in foreign countries with their numbers stations now, and then there's VHF/UHF at home etc. Snail mail still exists, so does ol' fashioned landlines for communication at least internally even if they cut undersea telcom cables, hell I'm pretty sure CDMA would still be running, this sets us back to like 1990 at most, especially if we take this threat seriously and start implementing non-internet based (or sat internet) fallbacks just in case standard comms go down for a while until a new cable can be lain.

            Like don't get me wrong, we'd definitely feel the effects, but this isn't some kind of world dominating shit we're talking about here, it's just pretty inconvenient, especially if we already have alts in place as fallbacks so we don't have to scramble to set them up.

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              I mean, no? Ok let's say you did cut off the internet, there's still radio. Shortwave still can reach spies in foreign countries with their numbers stations now, and then there's VHF/UHF at home etc. Snail mail still exists, so does ol' fashioned landlines for communication at least internally even if they cut undersea telcom cables, hell I'm pretty sure CDMA would still be running, this sets us back to like 1990 at most, especially if we take this threat seriously and start implementing non-internet based (or sat internet) fallbacks just in case standard comms go down for a while until a new cable can be lain.

              Like don't get me wrong, we'd definitely feel the effects, but this isn't some kind of world dominating shit we're talking about here, it's just pretty inconvenient, especially if we already have alts in place as fallbacks so we don't have to scramble to set them up.

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              The knock on effects of substantial infrastructure interruptions like this can have massive impacts that snowball aggressively. Not saying you’re wrong, but it is nothing to scoff at. Things like this do have the potential to severely change the geopolitical landscape.

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                The knock on effects of substantial infrastructure interruptions like this can have massive impacts that snowball aggressively. Not saying you’re wrong, but it is nothing to scoff at. Things like this do have the potential to severely change the geopolitical landscape.

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                I'm not saying it's nothing, just saying I think it's massively overstated.

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                  Idk. That at least has some mild benefits for the countries. In the form of investions and infrastructure.

                  Cutting cables is just an act of war it you ask me.

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                  Cutting cables is different than "I can cut cables dont touch me."

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                    Cool

                    So for every European deep sea cable cut it should send a fleet of Russian and Chinese ships to the bottom, torpedo the fuckers. Just by default presume it was either of them and make then responsible for the safety of our cables. If you fail to protect our cables, we'll send your ships to the next life.

                    Gloves. Off.

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                    Exactly what I've been screaming. Hang the captain and first mate, scuttle the fucking ship. This shit needs to be treated as piracy, no quarter given.

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                      Exactly what I've been screaming. Hang the captain and first mate, scuttle the fucking ship. This shit needs to be treated as piracy, no quarter given.

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                      Luckily capital punishment is banned in most countries.

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                        Luckily capital punishment is banned in most countries.

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                        And that attitude is why China continues to test us, they know we're pussies. You should see what they're pulling on Vietnam and the Philippines in the South China Sea.

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                        • W [email protected]

                          china is its politics. its culture has been majorly reshaped by their dystopian shit. Basically no one there questions their surveillance, what's more, they ridicule those who oppose it

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                          china is its politics.

                          Funny reading this on lemmy where almost every single discussion is dominated by US politics, even on posts that have nothing to do with politics.

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                            And that attitude is why China continues to test us, they know we're pussies. You should see what they're pulling on Vietnam and the Philippines in the South China Sea.

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                            I really don't care.

                            Capital punishment is immoral and that's that.

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                              You realize that data comes from the same place, right?

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                              Are we talking about the data? I understand the hosts and servers are fine, but if the cables are all destroyed, we will have to rely on access to satellite internet. They are actively economically attacking Verizon, canceling contracts they had and replacing them with SpaceX ones.

                              Like have ANY of you EVER roleplayed in DnD or like, done anything? Are you just chronically bamboozled? Genuinely curious. I talk to ppl like this all day every day - are you just stupid? Am I stupid for being here talking to you all trying to communicate what's happening?

                              Maybe you're just dissociated and unable to register everything. Idk. Jesus.

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                                A compact, deep-sea, cable-cutting device, capable of severing the world’s most fortified underwater communication or power lines, has been unveiled by China – and it could shake up global maritime power dynamics.

                                The revelation marks the first time any country has officially disclosed that it has such an asset, capable of disrupting critical undersea networks.

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                                This feels really dumb from China. This is not a weapon against military. This is a weapon against civilian insfrastructure. You don't get minds and hearts of people by attacking something they love

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                                  I really don't care.

                                  Capital punishment is immoral and that's that.

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                                  Glad you're in a society that is able to entertain that notion. Looks like that society is going to collapse. Good luck.

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                                    Glad you're in a society that is able to entertain that notion. Looks like that society is going to collapse. Good luck.

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                                    From my point of view the country most famous for its death punishment is collapsing.

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      That's not how reality works... You can't make the cable pull down the ship. And even if you could they'd just lose the anchor

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                                      Making them lose the anchor because it gets trapped is good too.

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