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  • G [email protected]

    oh shit... i was there on that day! and i missed it...

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    I bet you'd have been able to see it from the top of that pyramid though.

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    • sparky@lemmy.federate.ccS [email protected]

      Yeah I was just thinking the same thing - it’s closed now?

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      All of these had to be closed off because jackasses who tried to take away a piece of the monument, or because they didn't tread well and fell down.

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      • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

        Summary

        A German tourist was arrested and attacked after climbing the Temple of Kukulcan at Chichen Itza, Mexico, during the spring equinox.

        Video footage shows locals shouting insults and physically confronting the man as National Guard personnel detained him.

        The temple, a UNESCO World Heritage site and one of the New Seven Wonders of the World, is off-limits to climbers due to preservation laws and safety concerns.

        Violators face fines up to $16,000 and possible prison time.

        The incident occurred amid a crowd of 8,000–9,000 visitors.

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        Good, now sacrifice him to whatever God they believe in

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        • muyal@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

          I've been there many times.

          "My objection is to the authorities who have permitted this kind of presence at a heritage site"

          Not allowing them would wreck the local economy. It will not happen.

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          So that's it? We concede that this is the acceptable way we as a species best want to present our anthropological heritage? Forgive my comments on how we can strive to do better.

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            How's Bali

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            I hear it’s infested with westerners and bogans.

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              Yeah, I didn't mean that's the only thing that could possibly ever be done tiehr I'm not an archaeologist or whatever would be relevant.

              Maybe it would be possible to just encase it is a giant glass cube, who knows. But is nothing the best thing to be doing? I'm just asking.

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              Yeah, I'm not an archaeologist either.

              I've been to a few places where attempts to repair or actively preserve monuments have been made, it just never seems to go well.

              We don't have skilled artisans of the techniques used, nor the workforce. Operating on a budget is kind of antithetical to building or maintaining monuments like this.

              I was watching something about the NESS of brodgar recently. A fascinating Palaeolithic site completely buried. Excavations have been ongoing for several years, but now they're just going to re-bury the whole site so as to minimise any disruption. Most of the site has not yet been excavated. The thinking is, if you excavate it in 20 years time our tech will have advanced and more will be learned.

              I'm just saying that steps taken to actively preserve something need to be very carefully considered and in almost all cases the solution is simply to not touch it.

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              • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                Summary

                A German tourist was arrested and attacked after climbing the Temple of Kukulcan at Chichen Itza, Mexico, during the spring equinox.

                Video footage shows locals shouting insults and physically confronting the man as National Guard personnel detained him.

                The temple, a UNESCO World Heritage site and one of the New Seven Wonders of the World, is off-limits to climbers due to preservation laws and safety concerns.

                Violators face fines up to $16,000 and possible prison time.

                The incident occurred amid a crowd of 8,000–9,000 visitors.

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                I was lucky enough to go there when they still allowed people to go up the temple at Chichen Itza, and it was pretty cool, but I couldn't image just climbing shit they tell you not to. Especially when the reasoning is protecting heritage.

                Honestly, he's lucky he didn't 'trip' on the way down.

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                  So that's it? We concede that this is the acceptable way we as a species best want to present our anthropological heritage? Forgive my comments on how we can strive to do better.

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                  If you want Chichen Itzá to turn into a quiet library it's not going to happen.

                  It's one of the seven wonders of the modern world, you have the same experience if you visit the Vatican or the pissa tower.

                  There are many other sites in Yucatan that don't receive as many visitors like ek' balam and mayapan. Those are usually less crowded.

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                    Is it, though? You aren't contributing anything to the local economy or culture while simultaneously stimulating gentrification...

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                    How is buying local goods and services not contributing to the local economy?

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                    • P [email protected]

                      I hear it’s infested with westerners and bogans.

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                      No shit, it's the Paris of Indonesia. I mean, how is the place doing. During COVID they were struggling.

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                        Is it, though? You aren't contributing anything to the local economy or culture while simultaneously stimulating gentrification...

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                        Of course they are contributing to the culture. Enriching it with their own culture as immigrants.

                        They are strengthening the indonesian rupiah by Selling other currencies for it. Then they are spending idr on the local economy.

                        A developed economy is more expensive to live in. Gentrification just means that the area gets developed. The people that can't stay there economically are people without education.

                        This can be solved however with policy. Policies that aim at social mobility like here in the EU.

                        Tax paid education.

                        Indonesia is a tax paradise, very attractive.

                        Very cheap labour. Very young population.

                        My brain can't comprehend their cost of living, so I always tipped the Uber drivers in Batam with 100k idr. They often wanted to decline, but it's like the normal price of transport where I'm from.

                        I see a lot of international companies there.

                        Their poverty rate has been in decline since the 80s.

                        Very friendly people in general too.

                        Globalism is the way, bruv

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                        • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                          Summary

                          A German tourist was arrested and attacked after climbing the Temple of Kukulcan at Chichen Itza, Mexico, during the spring equinox.

                          Video footage shows locals shouting insults and physically confronting the man as National Guard personnel detained him.

                          The temple, a UNESCO World Heritage site and one of the New Seven Wonders of the World, is off-limits to climbers due to preservation laws and safety concerns.

                          Violators face fines up to $16,000 and possible prison time.

                          The incident occurred amid a crowd of 8,000–9,000 visitors.

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                          Lucky that he didn't get his heart ripped out and the head thrown down the steps

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                            Colonialism is also about displacing native/local culture which is what a lot of these digital nomads are doing. One example I’ve seen are the digital nomads trying to stop locals from walking on the public beaches in front of their properties.

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                            So the Turks are colonising my country 🌝 wolf or whatever they keep saying

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                              I bet you'd have been able to see it from the top of that pyramid though.

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                              Sounds like an episode of Always Sunny.

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                                Should I write those cheques to the poor now, sir?

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                                  I used to work in a tourist area of CA, and most German tourists are very friendly and usually have a good dry humor, only ever had one be rude, but I think he was an offical going to the military base and not a tourist. He didn't like me walking past the lobby in a restaurant he was waiting to be seated in, I don't know how it is elsewhere, but when your picking up and paying for a to go order in the US, you don't wait to be seated, you just go to the front of house area and pay, typically front of house worker or owners aren't seating people unless it's an incredibly slow.

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                                  You just happened to work in a tourist area that is above the budget of most of our worst offenders (sorry if this sounds classist, it's absolutely not meant that way)

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                                  • muyal@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                    If you want Chichen Itzá to turn into a quiet library it's not going to happen.

                                    It's one of the seven wonders of the modern world, you have the same experience if you visit the Vatican or the pissa tower.

                                    There are many other sites in Yucatan that don't receive as many visitors like ek' balam and mayapan. Those are usually less crowded.

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                                    I'm not sure why you've chosen to be obtuse and misinterpret my comments. I've not said that Chichen Itzá should become a library.

                                    The Vatican and Pisa are actually terrific examples of sites that are not overrun with tour guide and market stand mafias running every tourist scam under the sun.

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