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As top Trump aides sent texts on Signal, flight data show a member of the group chat was in Russia

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  • empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comE [email protected]

    This seems a bit too nitpicky tbh.
    The author is correct, Signal is not "perfect", because the weakest link is always the endpoint device and the end user. Which is kind of the whole point of this article; The issue is not that Signal was used, as it's reasonably secure, it's that the people using it are not secure at all.

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    Oh, I'm definitely picking nits. I agree and said as much in my last comment. But the way the article presented it made it feel like there is a clear and present danger from Chinese and Russian threat actors against the protocol.

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      Trump is a Russian asset and the Kremlin dictates U.S. policy.

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      You have been banned from Lemmy.ml

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      • sanctus@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        Looks like Russia won the ideological war and will be exporting authoritarianism to the globe.

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        Nahhhh according to the tankies of .ml, Russia is just trying to export humanity-saving peace, love and socialism but has just been continuously beaten down by the big bad US 😞

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          That encryption is not impenetrable, however, and the Google Threat Intelligence Group warned just last month of "increasing efforts from several Russia state-aligned threat actors to compromise Signal Messenger accounts used by individuals of interest to Russia's intelligence services."

          This is somewhat disingenuous. Signal can't be directly cracked. Only access to the phone directly or via mirroring can expose it. The article somewhat explains this.

          I am in no way whatsoever excusing the actions of these douche-chalupas. I prefer accuracy in my reporting, though. That said, Witkoff in Russia may as well have been a direct line to Putin.

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          The most uncrackable encryption can be defeated by Steven Witkoff sitting on Putin's lap while reading the messages.

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            The most uncrackable encryption can be defeated by Steven Witkoff sitting on Putin's lap while reading the messages.

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            Bingo, comrade.

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            • C [email protected]

              may as well have been a direct line to Putin.

              Was Mr Putin over his shoulder at the crucial moment, or just a state-run high-def camera?

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              почему не оба?

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                That encryption is not impenetrable, however, and the Google Threat Intelligence Group warned just last month of "increasing efforts from several Russia state-aligned threat actors to compromise Signal Messenger accounts used by individuals of interest to Russia's intelligence services."

                This is somewhat disingenuous. Signal can't be directly cracked. Only access to the phone directly or via mirroring can expose it. The article somewhat explains this.

                I am in no way whatsoever excusing the actions of these douche-chalupas. I prefer accuracy in my reporting, though. That said, Witkoff in Russia may as well have been a direct line to Putin.

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                Given the rest of their behavior I'm seeing that chat member leaning across the lunch table towards Putin's secretary, holding out his phone: "hey look, we're just about to bomb Yemen!"

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                • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                  You have been banned from Lemmy.ml

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                  Sounds like a win for platypus.

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                  • G [email protected]

                    Note to self: before becoming dictator, develop natural immunity to small arms fire. Begin with BB gun?

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                    You'll shoot your eye out.

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                    • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                      You have been banned from Lemmy.ml

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                      Lol I wear my ban with pride. All you have to do is go over there and use the word 'tankie'. They really don't like that word for some reason.

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                        Trump is a Russian asset and the Kremlin dictates U.S. policy.

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                        Krasnov, destroying America from within since 1987, the best accidental investment Putin ever made. Great success, comrades! 👍

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                          Lol I wear my ban with pride. All you have to do is go over there and use the word 'tankie'. They really don't like that word for some reason.

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                          Then this is for you!

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                          • 9 [email protected]

                            The main thing to remember about authoritarians is that none have ever been documented to be impervious to small pieces of metal moving at high speed.

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                            But they are known to dodge pretty well and only get nicked in the ear 😕

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                              You'll shoot your eye out.

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                              Only once, before the immunity kicks in

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                              • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                You have been banned from Lemmy.ml

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                                As a long time poster at all types of Lemmy instances, I still don't get why people don't like lemmy.ml

                                Can someone ELI5?

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                                  That encryption is not impenetrable, however, and the Google Threat Intelligence Group warned just last month of "increasing efforts from several Russia state-aligned threat actors to compromise Signal Messenger accounts used by individuals of interest to Russia's intelligence services."

                                  This is somewhat disingenuous. Signal can't be directly cracked. Only access to the phone directly or via mirroring can expose it. The article somewhat explains this.

                                  I am in no way whatsoever excusing the actions of these douche-chalupas. I prefer accuracy in my reporting, though. That said, Witkoff in Russia may as well have been a direct line to Putin.

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                                  But it isn’t that hard to create a signal account with the name of someone high in the US ranks and send a request to these people. They are too dumb to actually validate the key of the person.

                                  Encryption can’t handle when the encrypt with a foe’s key and send that for the message.

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                                  • empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comE [email protected]

                                    This seems a bit too nitpicky tbh.
                                    The author is correct, Signal is not "perfect", because the weakest link is always the endpoint device and the end user. Which is kind of the whole point of this article; The issue is not that Signal was used, as it's reasonably secure, it's that the people using it are not secure at all.

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                                    people using it are not secure at all.

                                    And this is very much not limited just to signal. No matter what software, protocol or any other way you use to communicate, both you and the receiving entity/entities are the weakest link by a long shot. I don't expect even my closest friends to hold our everyday conversations secret if for whatever reason their wellbeing was threated in any way. And even if I did there's always other options, like targeted social engineering, to get trough pretty much any reasonable safety concerns on digital communication.

                                    Of course in everyday life if our chat histories were publicly available it would not be too big of an issue, but it's still something worth keeping on mind when interacting over any digital or any other written medium.

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                                      The most uncrackable encryption can be defeated by Steven Witkoff sitting on Putin's lap while reading the messages.

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                                      • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                        As a long time poster at all types of Lemmy instances, I still don't get why people don't like lemmy.ml

                                        Can someone ELI5?

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                                        Hex and grad are tankie instances that are very in your face about it and don't carry the honor of being "the flagship" instance and as a result were easy to widely defederate from which led to most people here not having strong opinions on it

                                        .ml admins are hardcore tankies, but try to maintain .ml as the flagship and thus are more subtle about their tankieness. Instead opting to just censor any dissenting opinions before things get crazy in threads.

                                        As a result many instances are way more hesitant to actually defed from them like they did the rest of the Tankie Triad, thus leading to more widespread visibility and in turn more widespread dissatisfaction of them by most.

                                        Checkout [email protected] (for those on a .ml account you'll need to use this link because, ironically, .ml admins censor that comm from you: https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected] ) for documented instances of their behavior

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                                        • O [email protected]

                                          Bingo, comrade.

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                                          I think it's disingenuous to try to suggest that communists have anything to do with it. It's purely an oligarchical shithole.

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