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Trump reiterates US need to 'have' Greenland ahead of Vance visit

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    Russia. Because Russia is actually trying and the US hasn't done anything military aggressive and I don't have a reason to believe that they will.

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    The US hasn’t done anything militarily aggressive yet. There is every reason to believe this will change, considering they are openly threatening as much (Trump saying he wants to take Greenland, still part of Denmark, by force if necessary).

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      I implore you, do not take your eye off the man with the knife just because a drunken fool with guns at home has entered the room.

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      All eyes are on Russia, the far larger American threat - not passively, in them not helping, but actively in them opposing us - doesn’t nearly get the attention it deserves.

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        It isn't so. US is rarely aggressive to Europe and in 3-5 years the situation will settle down without much fuss. Russia will just kill you first physically and those who survive will be killed once more -- mentally. And no, helping Ukraine with a few thousand howitzer shells and a few planes isn't enough.

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        I love your optimism. The fascism and and reorganization of world power will just go away. That seems about as likely as a literal alien invasion happening within the next week. (And I mean extraterrestrial)

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          US President Donald Trump ramped up his claims to Greenland on Wednesday, saying ahead of a visit by Vice President JD Vance that the United States needed to take control of the Danish island for "international security."

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          How are both of them not Persona Non Grata yet?

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            I love your optimism. The fascism and and reorganization of world power will just go away. That seems about as likely as a literal alien invasion happening within the next week. (And I mean extraterrestrial)

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            I'll try to explain. Fascism is a complicated thing. Much more complicated than any type of democracy where you plan only for a few years ahead and don't deal with your mistakes because the next government should do it. And next government just ignores everything and blames the previous one.

            Fascism is based on some ideology. So you need one. No, just forbidding things isn't fascism. It is idiotism.

            And what do I want to say? Trump and his crew are too dumb to create or adopt any ideology and too incompetent to build fascism. I wouldn't trust them to build even an outdoor toilet.

            In a few years there will be no more Trump.

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              I'll try to explain. Fascism is a complicated thing. Much more complicated than any type of democracy where you plan only for a few years ahead and don't deal with your mistakes because the next government should do it. And next government just ignores everything and blames the previous one.

              Fascism is based on some ideology. So you need one. No, just forbidding things isn't fascism. It is idiotism.

              And what do I want to say? Trump and his crew are too dumb to create or adopt any ideology and too incompetent to build fascism. I wouldn't trust them to build even an outdoor toilet.

              In a few years there will be no more Trump.

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              Wtf do you think project 2025 is? Do you think all the professors telling us this is textbook fascism are wrong? Are you seriously that full of yourself, that you think the people who study this are mistaken?

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                US President Donald Trump ramped up his claims to Greenland on Wednesday, saying ahead of a visit by Vice President JD Vance that the United States needed to take control of the Danish island for "international security."

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                Americans, now's your change to stop really bad things from happening. Stop this literal lunatic

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                  Who is telling Trump we need Greenland? This isn't shot he's coming up with himself.

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                    I predict something will happen to Vance on this trip, giving Trump the excuse to go in to Greenland

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                    "Remember JD Vance! To hell with France!"

                    Inspiration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(1889)

                    (We know that Greenland is not French; the morons they'd sell the invasion to don't.)

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                      I'll try to explain. Fascism is a complicated thing. Much more complicated than any type of democracy where you plan only for a few years ahead and don't deal with your mistakes because the next government should do it. And next government just ignores everything and blames the previous one.

                      Fascism is based on some ideology. So you need one. No, just forbidding things isn't fascism. It is idiotism.

                      And what do I want to say? Trump and his crew are too dumb to create or adopt any ideology and too incompetent to build fascism. I wouldn't trust them to build even an outdoor toilet.

                      In a few years there will be no more Trump.

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                      Who do you think is pulling his strings? The people who will be left in charge when the useful idiot isn't useful anymore, the fascists. Trump is just the mouthpiece, the current face, he's not the one in charge, he just thinks he is.

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                        US President Donald Trump ramped up his claims to Greenland on Wednesday, saying ahead of a visit by Vice President JD Vance that the United States needed to take control of the Danish island for "international security."

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                        The US can't have shit

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                          Who is telling Trump we need Greenland? This isn't shot he's coming up with himself.

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                          The person lurking that signal group need to spill it.

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                            I predict something will happen to Vance on this trip, giving Trump the excuse to go in to Greenland

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                            He will get booed, which is his job apparently

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                              US President Donald Trump ramped up his claims to Greenland on Wednesday, saying ahead of a visit by Vice President JD Vance that the United States needed to take control of the Danish island for "international security."

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                              "Mr Trump, are you planning on belligerently invading another NATO country today?"

                              I think that airbase needs to go.

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                                US President Donald Trump ramped up his claims to Greenland on Wednesday, saying ahead of a visit by Vice President JD Vance that the United States needed to take control of the Danish island for "international security."

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                                There is this novel concept - being allies. Current US government should look into it.

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                                  US President Donald Trump ramped up his claims to Greenland on Wednesday, saying ahead of a visit by Vice President JD Vance that the United States needed to take control of the Danish island for "international security."

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                                  It is not a Danish island. It's a country that is part of the Kingdom of Denmark, just like Denmark and the Faroe Islands. A Danish island would be an island in Denmark, like Funen, Ærø, or Bornholm.

                                  Taking Greenland is a kin to taking Scotland from the UK, or Maine from the US of A. They're autonomous, and trying to buy a country from us really brings up some colonial feelings, that we would much rather be done with.

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                                    Who is telling Trump we need Greenland? This isn't shot he's coming up with himself.

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                                    This isn’t the first time the US has felt it ’needed’ others’ lands.

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                                      There is this novel concept - being allies. Current US government should look into it.

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                                      Talk to MAGA folks. They don't think we need allies or trading partners. They think the USA is big and strong enough to not only stand alone, but stand against the entire planet.

                                      It's hard to get across how ignorant these people are. Their information comes 100% from Fox News, Facebook, friends, family and like minded people in their echo chamber.

                                      I live in Florida. During hurricanes we literally live and die by NOAA. And day to day, we work and plan our lives around the National Weather Service (a subset of NOAA). Posted on NextDoor.com about the administration slashing NOAA and "have fun paying for private weather service, you voted for it". (Perhaps less snarky than comes across here.)

                                      You would be astonished, at least I was, by the outpouring of gall and hate I received. I won't try to relate it all, but even faced with personal consequences, the answer was, "Fuck all that and fuck you! Good job Trump!" That was the most "popular" post of the week. Oh my, the replies would not die off. Imagine hating on the government weather service!

                                      Best responses were a tie:

                                      One lady proud to pay for her AccuWeather subscription. "Where do you think AccuWeather gets their data?" "I'm not arguing with people like you!" LOL, wanted to add, "Not arguing with someone that pays for free weather data."

                                      One guy went off about vets, in reply to no one but the post, for some reason I can't begin to ascertain. Wish I could inject what I know about Trump and vets straight into his brain, leave him a twitching mess of cognitive dissonance.

                                      Maybe cognitive dissonance is what I triggered? Just thought of that and I may be onto something.

                                      (I use Weawow BTW. Weather is very important to me and they got it going on. Even has sun and moon info. You can choose your weather provider (I use NWS) but you can choose from 6 others. Norway even! Only data I wish they added was tidal, lol, and a compass would be nice. Free app of course, but I'd be glad to pay a one-time fee.)

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                                        International security of his fragile ego

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                                        And international security of companies who pretty much want to profit from thawing greenland ice.

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                                          Wtf do you think project 2025 is? Do you think all the professors telling us this is textbook fascism are wrong? Are you seriously that full of yourself, that you think the people who study this are mistaken?

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                                          While I think @Lemmist is much too optimistic, I can't help the feeling that these people will still trip over their own feet at some point. Their staff consists with second-rate sycophants and you just can't keep reality at bay forever.

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