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Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.

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  • R [email protected]

    I've been testing Zed for the last couple weeks for some Vue / Nuxt projects. It works great for that and seems very stable so far, but is also developed by a for-profit. Curious to see how the Zedless project works out.

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    I actually think their comments when it first went open source are pretty compelling. I don’t disagree with you and I’m interested to see how zedless fares, but new projects of this scale are tough to do well and quickly. I’m pretty happy with their current approach.

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      There is some serious crapitalist hate for organic maps. I never heard of it util is was taken off the play store for a bit. I side loaded it that day.

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      It works well, and I'm a huge fan and contributor to Open Street Maps (which it's bassed on). But it doesn't do traffic, which is unfortunately wha I need from my navigation apps 99% of the time.

      If they had a paid option to cover the costs of using TomTom's traffic API, I'd make the switch.

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        A cynical explanation would be using the EEE theory to explain all of this.

        A more nuanced one would be that corporations benefit from open source since it creates an easier pipeline to onboard engineers and they also benefit from the free labor that people put into the projects out of passion. Whether they want to kill OSS after embracing it is debatable, but they definitely want to have as much leverage on it as possible.

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        Bill Gates stated: "One thing we have got to change in our strategy – allowing Office documents to be rendered very well by other people's browsers is one of the most destructive things we could do to the company. We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office documents very well depend on proprietary IE capabilities. Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has to avoid doing something to destroy Windows."

        That Wikipedia is a gold mine of evil.

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        • B [email protected]

          Codeberg is a non-profit that has no fees, but accepts donations. They only allow FOSS projects.

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          Are you talking about Fossil ?
          Fossil's commands are just like git's & with the added benefit of having Github-in-a-box

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          • retro@infosec.pubR [email protected]

            They can support these languages because they have the resources to do so.

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            I feel like a good illustration would be a bicycle.

            1. My bicycle works fine, a little slow, but it beats walking, and requires little to no outside resources or upkeep.
            2. My neighbor, Joe Microsoft, slaps an 80cc motor on my bike. It's a lot faster, and less work for me, and Joe keeps it full of gas and tuned up, and fixes it when it breaks.
            3. I need Joe now to support my biking. I no longer have the resources to do it at this level, but Joe does.

            Is that about right? Are we selling open source for speed and convenience?

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            • tea@programming.devT [email protected]

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              New Git Repo.

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              So why were they blocked.

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              • L [email protected]

                We need something like Forgejo, but decentralized, like Lemmy. I don't want to create a new account for every Forgejo instance.

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                Rather have it on IPFS or something like OrbitDB, so no one can just lock/delete stuff.

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                • L [email protected]

                  We need something like Forgejo, but decentralized, like Lemmy. I don't want to create a new account for every Forgejo instance.

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                  Git is already decentralized, nothing is stopping you from adding multiple remotes to your repo.

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                    New Git Repo.

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                    Anyone have the story behind this? Fuck Microsoft and all that, but Github has historically been pretty good when it comes to not banning people for stupid reasons. Usually, it's a DMCA thing or a valid security threat.

                    Recently, there was some controversy about closed source code powering a component of the project (https://github.com/orgs/organicmaps/discussions/9837) but I didn't keep up with that. Could this ban be related to that?

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                      Are you talking about Fossil ?
                      Fossil's commands are just like git's & with the added benefit of having Github-in-a-box

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                      That's a gimmick that doesn't justify the costs of switching from Git (IMO)

                      If you want decentralized collaboration features in git without using forge software, you can use mailing lists like the Linux kernel does.

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                        We need something like Forgejo, but decentralized, like Lemmy. I don't want to create a new account for every Forgejo instance.

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                        There is this, havent tried

                        https://radicle.xyz/

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                          Anyone have the story behind this? Fuck Microsoft and all that, but Github has historically been pretty good when it comes to not banning people for stupid reasons. Usually, it's a DMCA thing or a valid security threat.

                          Recently, there was some controversy about closed source code powering a component of the project (https://github.com/orgs/organicmaps/discussions/9837) but I didn't keep up with that. Could this ban be related to that?

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                          Some contributer got flagged by US sanctions based on their IP, I think

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                            I retired and doing hobby projects in Python and java, so I get choices (including not playing) but wtf, big tech figured out how to take over open source?

                            That's particularly evil.

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                            Python's creator and BDfL works at Microsoft.

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                              Git is already decentralized, nothing is stopping you from adding multiple remotes to your repo.

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                              The issue tracker is usually the concern

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                                We need something like Forgejo, but decentralized, like Lemmy. I don't want to create a new account for every Forgejo instance.

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                                I think that's bad (for my personal use) because if I accidentally commit a secret key, how do I claw it back? Basically, how would I claw anything back if it's on a blockchain aka on thousands/millions of computers already (you can't).

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                                  It works well, and I'm a huge fan and contributor to Open Street Maps (which it's bassed on). But it doesn't do traffic, which is unfortunately wha I need from my navigation apps 99% of the time.

                                  If they had a paid option to cover the costs of using TomTom's traffic API, I'd make the switch.

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                                  But it is one of the best when it comes to cycling or walking. I've been using it for years now.

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                                    Has anyone actually created a traffic plugin yet?

                                    Nah, because the organic team doesnt wanna deal with collecting user data. Getting live location data from millions of people requires using and feeding into google services and thats a no go.

                                    Location data is just too sensitive and impossible to anonymize properly. No matter what you do, there will always be some company that has to collect all the data. That company no matter how cool and FOSS will eventually be forced to cooperate with law enforcement and then you are back to what we have now.

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                                    But isn't there a possibility to fetch data from official websites (like https://stau.info/ in Germany) around your place? It won't be as good as google, but better than nothing.

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                                      ai driven anti-spam is destroying the internet

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                                      Plausibly deniable attacks on political opposition.

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                                        Python's creator and BDfL works at Microsoft.

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                                        I'm not trying to be like some HOLY MOUNTAIN that no unclean things can ever touch.

                                        I'm just trying to keep myself free. I'll use people's stuff. If that starts becoming bondage, I'm out

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                                          We need something like Forgejo, but decentralized, like Lemmy. I don't want to create a new account for every Forgejo instance.

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                                          Have you heard of ... Git?

                                          🙂

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