Trump administration using Fox News to spread Greenland annexation propaganda | Possibly getting MAGA public ready to approve of it
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The USA military does not have the capacity to fight the whole EU.
Also the EU membership means they are all in a defense pact (separate from NATO). See Article 42.7 in the Treaty of Lisbon.
The question isn't if the European countries want to fight the USA. The question is if the USA wants to fight the European countries.
Yeah, the EU mutual defense clause is in fact slightly more binding but if you’re actually reading it (which I’m assuming you did since you posted it), it still only says that member states are required to give aid and assistance. I hope we are all aware how much diplomatic wiggle room this wording allows for.
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The USA does not has the capacity to win a war against the rest of NATO. The other EU countries will defend Denmark.
Are we talking about the same European states that ran out of ammunition during a 5-day air campaign against Libya and hat to borrow ammunition from the USAF? My brother in Christ, here in Germany the latest wargames the Bundeswehr did have concluded that our army can’t stay in a prolonged fight for more than a week.
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Stipulation for Greenland independence? Immediate entrance to NATO.
Oh of course, I’m sure the US wouldn’t veto that. Good idea!
Everyone in this thread is so confidently incorrect.
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So Trump is openly threatening with WW3, because Denmark would certainly invoke article 5 if attacked. Must suck for the MAGA voters who thought Trump wouldn't start any wars...
the MAGA voters who thought
There's a small issue with that statement...
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So Trump is openly threatening with WW3, because Denmark would certainly invoke article 5 if attacked. Must suck for the MAGA voters who thought Trump wouldn't start any wars...
But you see then Denmark actually started the war because Trump didn't actually say "war." Because yeah. That's how that works.
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Can we fucking stop pretending that Trump only does bad things because Putin tells him to? Or that he only won the election because of Putin? Wake the fuck up man. Trump is a fascist who is capable of doing atrocious things without outside influence and he won because a majority of voters in America is pro-fascism. He is aligning with Putin because he admires the way Putin terrorizes his neighbors and his own population. That’s the situation you have to deal with now.
If it's Putin's fault then no one in the US can solve the problem. If that isn't the case then there's no plausible way to avoid accepting that this is our problem to solve internally. Some people aren't ready to face that reality so they choose the comfortable oversimplification instead.
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Yeah, the EU mutual defense clause is in fact slightly more binding but if you’re actually reading it (which I’m assuming you did since you posted it), it still only says that member states are required to give aid and assistance. I hope we are all aware how much diplomatic wiggle room this wording allows for.
5000 helmets should do it
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5000 helmets should do it
Exactly.
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The USA does not has the capacity to win a war against the rest of NATO. The other EU countries will defend Denmark.
Hahahaha
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Um....there was a reason why we did what we did to Japan. It helped to stop WWII. Oh and Pearl Harbor was a thing too.
Greenland has done nothing other than exist and have some rare earth materials on it. How do these Fox News hosts even sleep at night spouting this nonsense?
The 2nd nuke was uncalled for.
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Every patriotic American should start "annexing" MAGAs property and let them see how they like it.
Easy way to get shot
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So Trump is openly threatening with WW3, because Denmark would certainly invoke article 5 if attacked. Must suck for the MAGA voters who thought Trump wouldn't start any wars...
Good thing we saved Gaza!
Oh wait...
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"If we have to burn a few bridges with Denmark"
First, no motherfucker, you're talking about burning bridges with the entire EU, we are a union for a reason after all even if Hungarian and Slovakian leadership thinks otherwise. And whatever bridge is left to burn with Canada will be gone, I assume.
And second, casually threatening Europe with nuclear fire from a "political entertainer", straight out of Russia playbook.
I wonder at what point the seething anger I've felt towards America for months is going to morph into hatred. What a nice relaxing weekend this is. Fucking great.Trump is out golfing while the rest of us are trying to deal with chaos going on. This all starts up again Monday.
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They'd probably side with Denmark, but what that would amount to in practice is quite uncertain. They would be under a good deal of pressure not to further aggravate the situation and to let it go while making token gestures of solidarity. I don't share people's faith here that they'd fight the USA.
There "acceptable loss" calculations being made by all parties atm.
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There have been historical reasons for the US to eye Greenland, mostly related to cold war defense strategies. It’s confusing that a Trump would want to realize these thoughts when it would be a offense to his handler in moscow. Suggests that these historical reasons are not his motivation.
There is also the theory that Silicon Valley billionaires want it to create a techno libertarian city project
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Um....there was a reason why we did what we did to Japan. It helped to stop WWII. Oh and Pearl Harbor was a thing too.
Greenland has done nothing other than exist and have some rare earth materials on it. How do these Fox News hosts even sleep at night spouting this nonsense?
They knew Japan would surrender before they dropped the bombs. They dropped them anyway.
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"And being friendly to the world is what got us in this mess. We're not in high school. We don't need friends. Every country puts their interest first. And when our interests align, we can do business. And when they don't, that's life. If we have to burn down a few bridges with Denmark to take Greenland, we're big boys. We dropped A-bombs on Japan, and now they're our top ally in the Pacific. We may have to burn a bridge to build a big beautiful new one to the next generation. America's not handcuffed by history. Trump knows what we need."
Make America Go Away
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"And being friendly to the world is what got us in this mess. We're not in high school. We don't need friends. Every country puts their interest first. And when our interests align, we can do business. And when they don't, that's life. If we have to burn down a few bridges with Denmark to take Greenland, we're big boys. We dropped A-bombs on Japan, and now they're our top ally in the Pacific. We may have to burn a bridge to build a big beautiful new one to the next generation. America's not handcuffed by history. Trump knows what we need."
Trump's administration is really speedrunning fascism. When things inevitably start crumbling, war is the logical next step. Usually this takes a while, but under Trump you might see US troops invading democratic countries within months.
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