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  • S [email protected]

    Yes. And they didn’t stop.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_v_Germany_(2014_FIFA_World_Cup)

    It was mean spirited.

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    Ehh, they scored more than half of those points within six minutes, and six out of seven within the first half hour. They stopped trying to score after halftime and dampened their post-goal celebrations. It seemed like they really weren’t trying to rub it in, but Brazil was just not being competitive.

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      I also see Putin as quite very

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      I only see Putin as "really" but then I'm not German

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        Germany's military, the Bundeswehr, recently got the all-clear for a massive increase in investment after parliament voted to exempt defence spending from strict rules on debt.

        The country's top general has told the BBC the cash boost is urgently needed because he believes Russian aggression won't stop at Ukraine.

        "We are threatened by Russia. We are threatened by Putin. We have to do whatever is needed to deter that," Gen Carsten Breuer says. He warns that Nato should be braced for a possible attack in as little as four years.

        "It's not about how much time I need, it's much more about how much time Putin gives us to be prepared," the defence chief says bluntly. "And the sooner we are prepared the better."

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        It feels a bit weird being on the German side for once, also their track record of succeeding isn't that great, but I love our neighbors and I fully support them.

        I'm just, sad the world is falling into another world war while we also just could be more kind and forgiving towards each other. It would save a lot of lives and leads of pain and agony.

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          Germany's military, the Bundeswehr, recently got the all-clear for a massive increase in investment after parliament voted to exempt defence spending from strict rules on debt.

          The country's top general has told the BBC the cash boost is urgently needed because he believes Russian aggression won't stop at Ukraine.

          "We are threatened by Russia. We are threatened by Putin. We have to do whatever is needed to deter that," Gen Carsten Breuer says. He warns that Nato should be braced for a possible attack in as little as four years.

          "It's not about how much time I need, it's much more about how much time Putin gives us to be prepared," the defence chief says bluntly. "And the sooner we are prepared the better."

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          A bit concerned if an AfD take-over can't be completely ruled out.

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          • mitm0@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

            Just don't draft people & you good. A drafted military never fights well

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            Maybe, but a drafted one fights better than one that doesn't exist.

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              With the Putin-loving, fascist AfD as the second strongest party in the country? We will see, but I do not have high hopes.

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              So my understanding is that they are the second strongest, but still at around 20% the other German parties formed a coalition that froze Afd out of power. So they are still a threat in future elections, but they have limited impact on policy for now.

              Is that correct or have I got the wrong idea?

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                Maybe, but a drafted one fights better than one that doesn't exist.

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                Quite the contrary.

                Try to force me to carry a gun and I will use it against you.

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                • S [email protected]

                  Very, quite

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                  Yes, shallow and pedantic.

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                    Germany's military, the Bundeswehr, recently got the all-clear for a massive increase in investment after parliament voted to exempt defence spending from strict rules on debt.

                    The country's top general has told the BBC the cash boost is urgently needed because he believes Russian aggression won't stop at Ukraine.

                    "We are threatened by Russia. We are threatened by Putin. We have to do whatever is needed to deter that," Gen Carsten Breuer says. He warns that Nato should be braced for a possible attack in as little as four years.

                    "It's not about how much time I need, it's much more about how much time Putin gives us to be prepared," the defence chief says bluntly. "And the sooner we are prepared the better."

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                    O great the host is ready to play.

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                    • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                      It feels a bit weird being on the German side for once, also their track record of succeeding isn't that great, but I love our neighbors and I fully support them.

                      I'm just, sad the world is falling into another world war while we also just could be more kind and forgiving towards each other. It would save a lot of lives and leads of pain and agony.

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                      Their success rate would have been a lot higher if they had known when to stop ;-). I think if the stated goal of defending Europe from Russia doesn't change that they have a very good chance of success given the numbers they are talking about.

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                      • D [email protected]

                        So my understanding is that they are the second strongest, but still at around 20% the other German parties formed a coalition that froze Afd out of power. So they are still a threat in future elections, but they have limited impact on policy for now.

                        Is that correct or have I got the wrong idea?

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                        Mostly correct yes. The main danger lies in future elections.

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                        • myopinion@lemm.eeM [email protected]

                          War is coming. Best be ready for it.

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                          Popcorn for all.
                          New subsidies are coming, hybrid phev or bev ?

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                            A bit concerned if an AfD take-over can't be completely ruled out.

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                            Yeah I’m a bit tired of bought out politicians dismantling a country from the inside.

                            Probably the biggest loophole that HAS to be fixed!

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                              Ehh, they scored more than half of those points within six minutes, and six out of seven within the first half hour. They stopped trying to score after halftime and dampened their post-goal celebrations. It seemed like they really weren’t trying to rub it in, but Brazil was just not being competitive.

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                              but Brazil was just not being competitive.

                              That's quite the understatement: It was so bad Brazilian fans started to cheer for the German team. Which, under usual circumstances, only happens when we're not playing against each other.

                              All in all it could've been worse for Brazil: It could have been Argentina. And it could have been better for Germany: It could have been the Dutch.

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                              • R [email protected]

                                Their success rate would have been a lot higher if they had known when to stop ;-). I think if the stated goal of defending Europe from Russia doesn't change that they have a very good chance of success given the numbers they are talking about.

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                                The crazy thing that still makes my head spin and that I fail to process properly is that Europe would still be under Nazi regime today had they not attacked Russia ... despite all the crimes. How do you deal with that? idk

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                                  So my understanding is that they are the second strongest, but still at around 20% the other German parties formed a coalition that froze Afd out of power. So they are still a threat in future elections, but they have limited impact on policy for now.

                                  Is that correct or have I got the wrong idea?

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                                  Yes and no. In general you are right, but there are municipalities in East Germany that had over 50% of the votes go to the AfD... which is still absolutely insane to me. I'm sure it's the same in the USA, but cities tend to lean more left and rural regions tend to heavily favor the AfD (or slightly less/more right parties).

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                                    Their success rate would have been a lot higher if they had known when to stop ;-). I think if the stated goal of defending Europe from Russia doesn't change that they have a very good chance of success given the numbers they are talking about.

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                                    I also wonder how much farther their war efforts would have gone had they not wasted time, men, and resources on ineffective warfare like that massive train driven cannon. Its a lot of effort and resources to set up double track rails just to miss most of your shots.

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                                      Yeah I’m a bit tired of bought out politicians dismantling a country from the inside.

                                      Probably the biggest loophole that HAS to be fixed!

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                                      The biggest problem with democracy is that voting isn't mandatory, and 25% of any population is dumb as bricks.

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                                        I also wonder how much farther their war efforts would have gone had they not wasted time, men, and resources on ineffective warfare like that massive train driven cannon. Its a lot of effort and resources to set up double track rails just to miss most of your shots.

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                                        They might have fared better without the meth addictions too

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                                        • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                                          The crazy thing that still makes my head spin and that I fail to process properly is that Europe would still be under Nazi regime today had they not attacked Russia ... despite all the crimes. How do you deal with that? idk

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                                          I'm not sure it would. The Nazi economy was supported by plunder, they had to keep attacking to fund it. They couldn't get to Britain or America, and they had otherwise more or less run out of Europe.

                                          I don't want to imagine the kind of atrocities they could have committed in the time that it would take for them to collapse, but I do think the collapse would have come

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