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The world reacts to Trump's sweeping tariffs: 'No basis in logic'

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  • G [email protected]

    Lmao wat.

    I’d ask if you’re serious, but I’m also sure you are.

    Honestly, I was expecting this administration to be mind-numbingly stupid, but somehow they keep finding ways to surpass my expectations on that front on a daily basis. I’d be impressed if it wasn’t so catastrophic.

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    well, they can't even name a single country in ASEAN.

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    • T [email protected]

      Having Non-US platforms would be nice, yes, But leaving the US-based ones without ad revenue and a shit-ton of users would be nice, too.

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      Why not both?

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      • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

        Summary

        Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

        The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

        Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

        Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

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        They’re AI generated tariffs. He asked Grok and these are the numbers it spat out.

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        • I [email protected]

          Power levels are bullshit.

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          Says the guy with the broken scouter

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            I hope the EU reacts with something non-tariffy. Like forbidding US online platforms to serve ads and collect personal data, with severe punishments if they still do.

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            I recently read an article that suggested the best retaliation would be to stop enforcing US intellectual property in the EU. One of the biggest exports they have is media, if we would stop enforcing their copyright it would cost them a lot of money.

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              Says the guy with the broken scouter

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              Your reply has a lot of Yamcha energy.

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              • A [email protected]

                ok, then...

                i have a huge trade deficit with walmart.

                i buy way more from them than they do from me ($1200-1500 a year vs $0); just like the u.s. buys more from many countries than those countries buy from the u.s.

                like the leaky diaper's new tariffsimport tax, i should charge myself a ridiculously high extra tax on purchases from walmart until they buy $1200-1500 a year of some mythical product from me to even out the 'unfair' imbalance?

                yea. that'll work.

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                That's actually a pretty good and understandable explanation of what's going on.

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                  I hope the EU reacts with something non-tariffy. Like forbidding US online platforms to serve ads and collect personal data, with severe punishments if they still do.

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                  We can only hope.

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                  • I [email protected]

                    Your reply has a lot of Yamcha energy.

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                    You're absolutely right, I can easily hear that comment in his voice too

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                    • W [email protected]

                      I recently read an article that suggested the best retaliation would be to stop enforcing US intellectual property in the EU. One of the biggest exports they have is media, if we would stop enforcing their copyright it would cost them a lot of money.

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                      I think a lot of that kind of stuff is going to happen. I don't think other countries are insulted, as much as they find it ridiculous, and to be ridiculed, I think they're going to do some inventive chaos. I think we need to be building some world bingo cards, and I'll bet we won't guess all the (hopefully hilarious) petty revenges about to snowball.

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                        But arent all fiat currencies made up since there's no gold standard backing them.

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                        No, they are backed by the economies of the issuing countries.

                        Gold standard is not viable in a modern economy.

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                        • A [email protected]

                          ok, then...

                          i have a huge trade deficit with walmart.

                          i buy way more from them than they do from me ($1200-1500 a year vs $0); just like the u.s. buys more from many countries than those countries buy from the u.s.

                          like the leaky diaper's new tariffsimport tax, i should charge myself a ridiculously high extra tax on purchases from walmart until they buy $1200-1500 a year of some mythical product from me to even out the 'unfair' imbalance?

                          yea. that'll work.

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                          the "logic" is pretty much as you described it. Only, after charging yourself with the extra tax on Walmart purchases, you obviously can't afford Walmart any longer, so you learn to make your own soap with ash and the fats of animals that you have started breeding in your own flat.

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                            I recently read an article that suggested the best retaliation would be to stop enforcing US intellectual property in the EU. One of the biggest exports they have is media, if we would stop enforcing their copyright it would cost them a lot of money.

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                            You don't even have to go that far. Just adopt sane copyright laws, like copyright only lasting the life of the artist.

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                            • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                              Summary

                              Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

                              The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

                              Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

                              Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

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                              No, I just saw another comment that found the "logic"(read whatever the inverse of that is). Apparently he thinks a trade deficit is a bad thing. So he is trying to "balance" them in the summer way possible, by enacting a traffic that inverses it. So Vietnam, we buy $9.7 mil of product from while selling ~$325.25 k to them. So he is enacting a 97% tariffs on imports from Vietnam.

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                              • tempus_fugit@midwest.socialT [email protected]

                                Wouldn't it have to be 9001%?

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                                You're hired

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                                  You don't even have to go that far. Just adopt sane copyright laws, like copyright only lasting the life of the artist.

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                                  Thats still too long imo. Patents are 20 years, so should every IP protection.

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                                  • tempus_fugit@midwest.socialT [email protected]

                                    Wouldn't it have to be 9001%?

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                                    Naa, 9001% is too high. It's impossible. Better stick with 9000%.

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                                      They’re AI generated tariffs. He asked Grok and these are the numbers it spat out.

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                                      He's imposing tariffs on uninhabited islands... what a fucking moron...

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                                      • zaraki42@lemmy.caZ [email protected]

                                        He's imposing tariffs on uninhabited islands... what a fucking moron...

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                                        There are penguins! 🐧

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                                          Thank you! Neither the BBC nor the Flemish public tv seem to say this yet (they just repeat the statement Trump gave)

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                                          This is the only person I have seen say this so I can only guess no one is repeating it but it appears to be correct when I checked a few countries.

                                          Its fucking insane to think Cambodia has a 97% tariff, and he thinks they are getting rich off of it.

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