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The world reacts to Trump's sweeping tariffs: 'No basis in logic'

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  • B [email protected]

    They’re AI generated tariffs. He asked Grok and these are the numbers it spat out.

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    He's imposing tariffs on uninhabited islands... what a fucking moron...

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    • zaraki42@lemmy.caZ [email protected]

      He's imposing tariffs on uninhabited islands... what a fucking moron...

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      There are penguins! 🐧

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      • J [email protected]

        Thank you! Neither the BBC nor the Flemish public tv seem to say this yet (they just repeat the statement Trump gave)

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        This is the only person I have seen say this so I can only guess no one is repeating it but it appears to be correct when I checked a few countries.

        Its fucking insane to think Cambodia has a 97% tariff, and he thinks they are getting rich off of it.

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        • B [email protected]

          There are penguins! 🐧

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          McDonald's fucked up his order recently which is why their island received tariffs.

          He's going to get free hamberders for life when they cave.

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            There are penguins! 🐧

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            True. Those freeloading penguins.

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            • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

              Summary

              Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

              The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

              Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

              Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

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              Art of the deal, folks

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              • B [email protected]

                They’re AI generated tariffs. He asked Grok and these are the numbers it spat out.

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                They're mostly [Trade deficit]/[Exports to US]

                Which is a fucking stupid basis for tariffs.

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                • W [email protected]

                  I recently read an article that suggested the best retaliation would be to stop enforcing US intellectual property in the EU. One of the biggest exports they have is media, if we would stop enforcing their copyright it would cost them a lot of money.

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                  Of that I am not convinced. This will work with a lot of smaller countries that don't have much of a copyright portfolio, but not with Europe.

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                  • L [email protected]

                    well, they can't even name a single country in ASEAN.

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                    no, “Sean” is not a country in ASEAN. That is incorrect.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      What about Israel? Aren't they sucking you dry? Perhaps add some tariffs there?

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                      17% and they're already crying about it.

                      Ironically it's the closest the US has gotten to a BDS policy in its history with Israel.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        They're mostly [Trade deficit]/[Exports to US]

                        Which is a fucking stupid basis for tariffs.

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                        The depth of stupidity of this Administration will be studied by mathematicians for centuries as a new form of fractal.

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                        • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                          Summary

                          Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

                          The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

                          Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

                          Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

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                          Have we forgotten that he has done this each month since he was Inaugurated?

                          Today the stock market will crash on this news. The wealthy will buy on this massive dip, and in a few days, HitlerPig will announce that the countries on his list have responded to his tariff threats, so he is postponing them for a month or so.

                          The stock market will recover a bit, and the wealthy will make a fortune. In a month, he'll do it all over again.

                          It's deliberate market manipulation.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            They're mostly [Trade deficit]/[Exports to US]

                            Which is a fucking stupid basis for tariffs.

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                            It's possibly the most stupid basis for tariffs. The penalty is directly proportional to U.S. reliance on a country's imports. The countries that are the most important suppliers to the U.S. are penalized the most. It's a policy designed to cause maximum reshuffling of production, which maximizes the start-up costs of developing new factories and so on. And those factories are not going to be in the U.S. Import substitution industrialization is a failed policy and it won't work for reindustrialization either.

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                            • J [email protected]

                              I’ve never once heard a penguin say thank you.

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                              Those slovenly penguins dont wear suits, either.

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                              • G [email protected]

                                Lmao wat.

                                I’d ask if you’re serious, but I’m also sure you are.

                                Honestly, I was expecting this administration to be mind-numbingly stupid, but somehow they keep finding ways to surpass my expectations on that front on a daily basis. I’d be impressed if it wasn’t so catastrophic.

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                                I've heard that if you type in the right prompt into ChatGPT, this list is the result. They couldn't even be bothered to have an expert figure this out, or even souble check it before releasing it. So they end up putting tariffs on penguins.

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                                • sludgehammer@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                  and the price of bitcoin dropped 4.4%.

                                  I cannot express how much I hate that this appears in a serious economic article.

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                                  The price of speculative speculation dropped

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    There are penguins! 🐧

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                                    Maybe this is some 5D chess move against the rise of penguins

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                                    • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                      Summary

                                      Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

                                      The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

                                      Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

                                      Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

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                                      No basis in logic if he were actually trying to do what he says he is. He's not. They make perfect sense if the goal is to destabilize the country. We elected a fucking Manchurian candidate twice, and the in-between term was spent on a bunch of business as usual and not setting up protections in case it happened again. This country is fucking done.

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        I've heard that if you type in the right prompt into ChatGPT, this list is the result. They couldn't even be bothered to have an expert figure this out, or even souble check it before releasing it. So they end up putting tariffs on penguins.

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                                        From the article you’re probably referring to:

                                        DCInvestor’s observation came in response to crypto trader Jordan Fish, also known as Cobie, who also asked ChatGPT using the prompt: “What would be an easy way to calculate the tariffs that should be imposed on other countries so that the US is on even playing fields when it comes to trade deficit. Set a minimum of 10%.”

                                        A straightforward (if naïve) method is to set the tariff rate for each trading partner equal to the percentage share of the trade deficit relative to that country's total imports-always no less than 10%.

                                        In formula form:

                                        Tariff Rate (%) = max(10, (Trade Deficit ÷ Total Imports) x 100)

                                        For example, if the US runs a $20 billion deficit on $100 billion worth of imports from a country, the calculated rate is (20/100)×100 = 20%. If the deficit were only 5%, you'd still
                                        impose a 10% floor. This method ignores the intricate dynamics of international trade-such as elasticities, retaliatory measures, and supply chain nuances-but it provides a blunt, proportional rule to "level the playing field." One might implement it in Python like so:

                                        def calculate_tariff(trade_deficit, total_imports):
                                          # Calculate the deficit ratio as a percentage
                                          ratio =(trade_deficit / total_imports) * 100
                                          # Enforce a minimum tariff of 10%
                                          return max(10, ratio)
                                        
                                        # Example usage:
                                        tariff = calculate_tariff(20e9, 100e9)
                                        # $20B deficit on $100B imports yields a 20% tariff
                                        print(f"The tariff rate should be {tariff}%")
                                        

                                        We are defining trade policy with predictive text. What a time to be alive. Jesus tapdancing christ.

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                                          There are penguins! 🐧

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                                          Give him some credit (not a lot). What if China were to give these penguins cars to resale? Middle men penguins is what they are. They should call the island Midway island, a term invented by his assholness.

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