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  • G [email protected]

    Trump doesn't care about approval ratings. He has a "golden parachute" waiting for him and his buddies in Russia after he destroys America.

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    I was gonna say until his usefulness ends and he mysteriously falls out of a 4th floor window, but he's too fat and heavy to fall through one, so maybe just some plutonium in his diet coke

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      Among the reciprocal tariff levels Trump announced:

      China: 34%
      European Union: 20%
      South Korea: 25%
      India: 26%
      Vietnam: 46%
      Taiwan: 32%
      Japan: 24%
      Thailand: 36%
      Switzerland: 31%
      Indonesia: 32%
      Malaysia: 24%
      Cambodia: 49%
      United Kingdom: 10%

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      I don't think these are reciprocal. I think these are unilateral, and when countries respond, their tariffs will be reciprocal. The distinction is very important. This is a problem created by Trump, not by other countries. You don't get to choose false language to describe it that shifts the blame.

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      • S [email protected]

        Own your president Trump. Even if your theory was true, and I won't qualify it, nothing of this could have been possible without a ruined education system and mindless propaganda. All of this starts way before 2013.

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        Own your president Trump.

        People need to own up to anonymous no-identity social media addiction. The egomania they get chasing junk (drugs) off of Apple iPhone / iPad / Samsung / machine devices. Donald Trump is entirely an Apple iPhone addict in egomania off machine lust, as too is Elon Musk.

        nothing of this could have been possible without a ruined education system and mindless propaganda.

        Nothing is more mindless than the education people get off of Lemmy memes, Reddit memes, Bluesky memes, Fox News HDTV, Joe Rogan. That's the education that creates an audience for Donald Trump. Self-centered eoomania, like the Middle East gets with one religion vs. another religion. Fiction addiction problems are raging in USA.

        Even if your theory was true

        My theory:

        “When a population becomes distracted by trivia, when cultural life is redefined as a perpetual round of entertainments, when serious public conversation becomes a form of baby-talk, when, in short, a people become an audience, and their public business a vaudeville act, then a nation finds itself at risk; culture-death is a clear possibility.”
        ― Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business, 1985 [email protected]

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          Curious that Russia is missing

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          It is not, Russia dont have tariffs they have sanctions... Dont be that guy

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            Time's person of the year 2025 already sigh

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            Nah, fuck that. Don't give recognition to that sack of shit.

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              It is not, Russia dont have tariffs they have sanctions... Dont be that guy

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              We can apply tariffs to uninhabited islands but not Russia? Fuck off.

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              • M [email protected]

                I'd argue it started with Bush and his No Child Left Behind bullshit. It forced a certain curriculum to leave out common sense and critical thinking skills

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                I’d argue it started with Bush and his No Child Left Behind bullshit. It forced a certain curriculum to leave out common sense and critical thinking skills

                Children aren't the problem. it's adults who get their constant education of anonymous memes. The year 2007 introduction of the Apple iPhone changed everything about USA society. We had the Fox News Rupert Murdoch problem since 1996, but the shit memes people flock to and "shit postings" addiction are the learning / education / study problem.

                Shitpostinh education is very predictable adult education outcome. Cal Sagan predicted in in 1995: “Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding (from 1995) of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time—when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness. The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30-second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance. As I write, the number-one videocassette rental in America is the movie Dumb and Dumber. “Beavis and Butthead” remain popular (and influential) with young TV viewers. The plain lesson is that study and learning—not just of science, but of anything—are avoidable, even undesirable.”
                ― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, year 1995

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                • R [email protected]

                  Among the reciprocal tariff levels Trump announced:

                  China: 34%
                  European Union: 20%
                  South Korea: 25%
                  India: 26%
                  Vietnam: 46%
                  Taiwan: 32%
                  Japan: 24%
                  Thailand: 36%
                  Switzerland: 31%
                  Indonesia: 32%
                  Malaysia: 24%
                  Cambodia: 49%
                  United Kingdom: 10%

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                    Curious that Russia is missing

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                    They get 10%.

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                    • G [email protected]

                      Doesn't the US already have full sanctions with Russia? So literally no trade is happening with them, so a tarrif would be pointless? Maybe I missed trump removing the sanctions at some point in his onslaught of nonsense.

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                      Penguins trade with the US?

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                      • L [email protected]

                        Ironically crashing the economy is one of the best things you can do to slow down climate change

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                        Wrong.

                        The best things you can do are invest in green energy and energy storage projects, create polices that cap (and actually punish) carbon emissions, upgrade to more efficient infrastructure... All things that take money, a functional government and a functional economy.

                        What we learned from COVID, is that crashing the economy does not really slow down climate change, it just hits the pause button for a little bit, and then it resumes at the same or greater speed.

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                          I don't have a ton of "the court is wrong" opinions, but Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution flatly gives Congress the responsibility of regulating trade and imposing tariffs. The President just doesn't (shouldn't) have the authority to change rates. The executive needs to execute the will of the Legislative branch.

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                          Congress is pretty much dead. Repubs have lost whatever was the last vertebrae they had in their spine

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                          • P [email protected]

                            Well well well, we finally fell off the cliff, didn't we?

                            Starting a trade war with the entire world, easy to win, right?

                            If the entire world reciprocates, which they will, you will literally wish you had just a recession to worry about. I wonder how Trump's approval ratings will be about a month from now

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                            Jim Jones was able to walk 600 adults to their death (the children, sadly, had no say in the matter). It's a cult

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                            • C [email protected]

                              😒 , at least like put any effort forth if you're going to steal a joke and make it shittier.

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                              Sorry, I don't want to be shitty, but I found his joke much better, because I understood and laughed right away without needing disclaimers, spoiler texts or to click any links, it was direct and to the point.

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                              • I [email protected]

                                Pls 100% world wide tax.

                                I like to go straight to the "Find Out" phase.

                                👀

                                (Remember, when the great depression happens, its our duty to eliminate nazis)

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                                There's technically no upper limit, why not make it 10000% and really see what happens!

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                                • I [email protected]

                                  1.084USD per EUR yesterday moved to 1.097USD per EUR today.

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                                  As of now at 17:00 Rome time: 0.90 USD / 1.00 EUR. That is a really big drop

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                                    I see we have a dirty tankie in our midst.

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                                    Man is trolling about Rwanda and Uganda

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                                    • M [email protected]

                                      If the goal is destruction then trump is doing a good job of that.

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                                      It's always the goal of malignant narcissists.

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                                        Among the reciprocal tariff levels Trump announced:

                                        China: 34%
                                        European Union: 20%
                                        South Korea: 25%
                                        India: 26%
                                        Vietnam: 46%
                                        Taiwan: 32%
                                        Japan: 24%
                                        Thailand: 36%
                                        Switzerland: 31%
                                        Indonesia: 32%
                                        Malaysia: 24%
                                        Cambodia: 49%
                                        United Kingdom: 10%

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                                        In case anyones looking at this and asking question like "Why has Cambodia been dunked with 49% when they're clearly not a competitor to the US" or "Why is Trump claiming that the European Union has a 40% tariff on the US when the actual mean tariff on US goods into the EU is less than 5%", here's your answer to how these figures have been calculated.

                                        • Take the US trade deficit with a given country (eg. China is $292bn)
                                        • Take the total good imported by US (for China that's $439bn)
                                        • Divide the first figure by the second! Why? Who knows! It's a number! Less talk more first grade arithmetic (if you're still following that gives us 67%)
                                        • That gives us a random number which we'll pretend is that country's tariff of US goods even though it's completely unrelated in every way. We'll divide it by two to get the new tariff rate for imports from that country. Why? Honestly if you're still expecting there to be an answer to that question I'm wondering if you've been following. (that gives us 34%, well actually it gives us 33.5% but I'm not sure the Trump administration understands the idea of fractions so we'll just round it up from there)

                                        The "reason" behind this is that Trump seems to think trade deficits are really bad, which is bad news for the US because it's had a trade deficit for the last 50 years. We'll ignore the fact that based on per capita GDP it's been the wealthiest country in the world for that time though.

                                        Anyway, just to give every an idea of how completely, utterly unrelated to anything meaningful that figure is, let's take Cambodia. The country is very poor compared to the US so can't afford to buy anything that the US manufacters (Cambodians aren't driving round in Teslas or IMessaging each other). Some US companies use it for clothing manufacture because labour is cheap in Cambodia (see the previous bit about Cambodia being much poorer than the US). This means that Cambodia imports close to nothing from the US compared to what it exports, giving it a close to 100% trade deficit, so we wind up with a 49% tariff on Cambodia.

                                        I genuinely don't understand the mindset that looks at the US's explotation of cheap labour in Cambodia and interprets the US as the victim in that relationship, but hey-ho maybe I'm just not biggly-smart enough to understand the 4d chess moves at play here. . .

                                        Reference (because unfortunately none of what I said was made up and that geniunely is the calculation): https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/03/trumps-idiotic-and-flawed-tariff-calculations-stun-economists

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                                          They get 10%.

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                                          They get 10%

                                          Im 100% sure they will not get any tariffs... a special 'exception' will be made for Russia

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