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  • T [email protected]

    He and allies like Elon Musk argue left-wing governments use the legal system to silence opponents

    That is a fine mental gymnastic there.

    I hope I'm not erring on the side of over-simplifying reality to make it abide to my limited mental capabilities to comprehend it, but more likely it is them, "He and allies like Elon Musk", who by doing what they normally do are using the legal system to silence themselves.

    Rule of law 101

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    What's funny is that the French government is not "left-wing".

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    • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

      Summary

      Donald Trump condemned France’s conviction of far-right leader Marine Le Pen, calling her four-year sentence and five-year political ban a “witch hunt” and likening it to his own legal battles.

      Le Pen was found guilty of embezzling EU funds and plans to appeal.

      Trump claimed the charges were politically motivated, calling them a “bookkeeping error” and urging France to “FREE MARINE LE PEN!”

      He and allies like Elon Musk argue left-wing governments use the legal system to silence opponents. Le Pen’s National Rally party was fined $2 million.

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      French here. Donald, take care of your burning house before you step in ours.

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      • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

        Summary

        Donald Trump condemned France’s conviction of far-right leader Marine Le Pen, calling her four-year sentence and five-year political ban a “witch hunt” and likening it to his own legal battles.

        Le Pen was found guilty of embezzling EU funds and plans to appeal.

        Trump claimed the charges were politically motivated, calling them a “bookkeeping error” and urging France to “FREE MARINE LE PEN!”

        He and allies like Elon Musk argue left-wing governments use the legal system to silence opponents. Le Pen’s National Rally party was fined $2 million.

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        Please offer her asylum in the US.

        And extend that offer to Orban, Fico, Farage, Abascal, Weidel and the rest of fascist scum.

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        • A [email protected]

          What's funny is that the French government is not "left-wing".

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          By comparison with MAGA they are.

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            In the Orange Goblin‘s world, why should criminals be prosecuted or sentenced instead of being pardoned? He should better deal with the mess he is creating at home and manage his own affairs.

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            Wilhoit's law.

            Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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            • wanpieserino@lemm.eeW [email protected]

              I mean, 3 million euros is literal peanuts. Do be aware that this is a politically charged witch hunt.

              One that fortifies the EU and weakens Russia.

              I'm all for that

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              4 million euros is not peanuts when your population is 69 million

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                By comparison with MAGA they are.

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                By comparison with US in general Europe is living in communist utopia 🙂

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                • mubelotix@jlai.luM [email protected]

                  4 million euros is not peanuts when your population is 69 million

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                  For a period of 12 years. Where the country generated a GDP of 32 trillion euros.

                  That's 0,0000125%.

                  The hospital I work at requires this amount of money monthly to pay us wagies, excluding the doctors. We're like 1300 employees.

                  The 200 doctors earn as much as we 1300 employees.

                  I'm not saying it wasn't a misallocated fund, but the sheer amount is laughable.

                  A drip in the bucket.

                  The fact that she misallocated it, shows lack of integrity, and the amount is enough for us to call her out on it.

                  We punish her mistakes. But the amount is nothing in the big picture.

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                    For a period of 12 years. Where the country generated a GDP of 32 trillion euros.

                    That's 0,0000125%.

                    The hospital I work at requires this amount of money monthly to pay us wagies, excluding the doctors. We're like 1300 employees.

                    The 200 doctors earn as much as we 1300 employees.

                    I'm not saying it wasn't a misallocated fund, but the sheer amount is laughable.

                    A drip in the bucket.

                    The fact that she misallocated it, shows lack of integrity, and the amount is enough for us to call her out on it.

                    We punish her mistakes. But the amount is nothing in the big picture.

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                    I get your point and she was fined a fair amount, in consideration of all this. It is important to remember though that the ineligibility isn't a punishment, it's a preventive measure so that she doesn't steals more than she did

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                      French here. Donald, take care of your burning house before you step in ours.

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                      He's being ordered by Putin on his behalf, le penne is putins agent

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                      • wanpieserino@lemm.eeW [email protected]

                        For a period of 12 years. Where the country generated a GDP of 32 trillion euros.

                        That's 0,0000125%.

                        The hospital I work at requires this amount of money monthly to pay us wagies, excluding the doctors. We're like 1300 employees.

                        The 200 doctors earn as much as we 1300 employees.

                        I'm not saying it wasn't a misallocated fund, but the sheer amount is laughable.

                        A drip in the bucket.

                        The fact that she misallocated it, shows lack of integrity, and the amount is enough for us to call her out on it.

                        We punish her mistakes. But the amount is nothing in the big picture.

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                        I was recently charged 300 quid for a balls up by the tax man. I don’t think she’s been fined nearly enough.

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                        • T [email protected]

                          I was recently charged 300 quid for a balls up by the tax man. I don’t think she’s been fined nearly enough.

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                          Oh for sure, guillotine her for all I care. But french folks like her 🤷🏻‍♂️ my french buddy voted for her instead of Macron.

                          Personally I'd vote for Macron but I'm not french. If we could vote as EU citizens, I would vote for Macron

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                          • A [email protected]

                            Please offer her asylum in the US.

                            And extend that offer to Orban, Fico, Farage, Abascal, Weidel and the rest of fascist scum.

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                            Please please don't. You're setting great examples by putting them in prisons. Nobody anywhere needs American fascists getting reinforcements. It's better for everyone that they be incarcerated, banned from public office, and their wealth seized. If they can be rehabilitated, fine. Maybe. Otherwise let them rot.

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                              By comparison with MAGA they are.

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                              In comparison with the US democrats they are.

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                              • T [email protected]

                                He and allies like Elon Musk argue left-wing governments use the legal system to silence opponents

                                That is a fine mental gymnastic there.

                                I hope I'm not erring on the side of over-simplifying reality to make it abide to my limited mental capabilities to comprehend it, but more likely it is them, "He and allies like Elon Musk", who by doing what they normally do are using the legal system to silence themselves.

                                Rule of law 101

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                                They're arguing that as if they're not doing that exact thing themselves, as if they ain't silencing their critics.

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                                  He's not old enough to run for president

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                                  Nobody really cares about laws anymore, so lets just ignore that one.

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                                  • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                    Summary

                                    Donald Trump condemned France’s conviction of far-right leader Marine Le Pen, calling her four-year sentence and five-year political ban a “witch hunt” and likening it to his own legal battles.

                                    Le Pen was found guilty of embezzling EU funds and plans to appeal.

                                    Trump claimed the charges were politically motivated, calling them a “bookkeeping error” and urging France to “FREE MARINE LE PEN!”

                                    He and allies like Elon Musk argue left-wing governments use the legal system to silence opponents. Le Pen’s National Rally party was fined $2 million.

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                                    It was not a witch hunt, it was a bitch hunt. And it succeeded.

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                                    • wanpieserino@lemm.eeW [email protected]

                                      Oh for sure, guillotine her for all I care. But french folks like her 🤷🏻‍♂️ my french buddy voted for her instead of Macron.

                                      Personally I'd vote for Macron but I'm not french. If we could vote as EU citizens, I would vote for Macron

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                                      EU citizens cannot vote in French presidential or parliamentary elections (They can in mayoral and EU elections though).
                                      But I get what you meant.

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                                      • R [email protected]

                                        EU citizens cannot vote in French presidential or parliamentary elections (They can in mayoral and EU elections though).
                                        But I get what you meant.

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                                        I can only vote on which Belgian I want to represent me in the EU as far as I'm aware

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                                        • O [email protected]

                                          Please please don't. You're setting great examples by putting them in prisons. Nobody anywhere needs American fascists getting reinforcements. It's better for everyone that they be incarcerated, banned from public office, and their wealth seized. If they can be rehabilitated, fine. Maybe. Otherwise let them rot.

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                                          I think we would set a better example if more people went the Mario's brother way.

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