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The best thing you can do for the fediverse is just be kind

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  • ? Guest

    Nope. There's really not. A lot of them are waking up. You're being divisive. And that's not what the country needs.

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    They had 4 years of Trump to see the truth for themselves. And then they got to see Trump break another election cycle's worth of promises on top of that!

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      Okay for anyone who is fried at the moment like I am, map-wiki IS NOT ABOUT GEOGRAPHY.

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      Damn I was mildly interested for a minute, I do love a little cartography

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        Yes, but not at the cost of letting fascists win. Harm reduction is real.

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        Sure, harm reduction is good. That's what's been happening for the past century.

        But you give the liberals an inch and they'll take a mile. They're only "liberals" as long as they're making money of others, as soon as something goes wrong they're first in line asking for government handouts. That's why the liberals will always prefer fascist over left wing idealists, because they're opportunists more than anything else. They'll backstab you and vote in fascists if they think they can make more money with them. That's exactly what's happening in the US.

        We need new politics where hating on the LGBTQ+, immigrants, women, and putting money over the lives of few isn't considered a political leaning.

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          Okay for anyone who is fried at the moment like I am, map-wiki IS NOT ABOUT GEOGRAPHY.

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          I also learned that one today.....

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            Sure, harm reduction is good. That's what's been happening for the past century.

            But you give the liberals an inch and they'll take a mile. They're only "liberals" as long as they're making money of others, as soon as something goes wrong they're first in line asking for government handouts. That's why the liberals will always prefer fascist over left wing idealists, because they're opportunists more than anything else. They'll backstab you and vote in fascists if they think they can make more money with them. That's exactly what's happening in the US.

            We need new politics where hating on the LGBTQ+, immigrants, women, and putting money over the lives of few isn't considered a political leaning.

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            Yep. Which means we need to run for government positions in a way we can win

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              They had 4 years of Trump to see the truth for themselves. And then they got to see Trump break another election cycle's worth of promises on top of that!

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              Trump's first term was nothing like this. It wasn't full on facism like the current term. The economy wasn't being completely obliterated and people weren't being disappeared.

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              • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                Anger and fear are blinding if you let them be, especially if they're intensely justified.

                Unfortunately we live in times where they're very justified. I don't begrudge people for reacting in anger or fear, I'm doing my best not to do exactly the same 😞

                Take care my friend.

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                As so often, the answer is found in scripture:

                One day Mal-2 asked the messenger spirit Saint Gulik to approach the Goddess and request Her presence for some desperate advice. Shortly afterwards the radio came on by itself, and an ethereal female Voice said YES?

                "O! Eris! Blessed Mother of Man! Queen of Chaos! Daughter of Discord! Concubine of Confusion! O! Exquisite Lady, I beseech You to lift a heavy burden from my heart!"

                WHAT BOTHERS YOU, MAL? YOU DON'T SOUND WELL.

                "I am filled with fear and tormented with terrible visions of pain. Everywhere people are hurting one another, the planet is rampant with injustices, whole societies plunder groups of their own people, mothers imprison sons, children perish while brothers war. O, woe."

                WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THAT, IF IT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO?

                "But nobody wants it! Everybody hates it."

                OH. WELL, THEN STOP.

                At which moment She turned herself into an aspirin commercial and left The Polyfather stranded alone with his species.

                Answer. I said answer. Not solution. Too much aspirin and your blood thins out and you need to move to Transylvania.

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                  And zero self awareness lmao

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                  Either you’re being intentionally obtuse or you’re being paid by Russia either way….

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                  • ogmios@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

                    If you actually had a coherent definition of what a Nazi is, it might be possible to agree with you. But in reality, it's used as a catch all by shitty people to justify their shitty behaviour.

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                    To be clear, I mean people who praise Hitler, put swastikas on things, blame everything on a Jewish Conspiracy, etc.

                    You know, Nazis.

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                    • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                      The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                      On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                      • Be kind

                      • Ask people what they think, and why

                      • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                      • Engage sincerely

                      • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                      • Make this small space worth being in

                      A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                      Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                      The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                      Love how the point of the post is “hey try to be nice” and everyone sounding off in the comments like “FUCK YOU AND FUCK THOSE SPECIFIC GUYS TOO”

                      Maybe more people should just post their reviews of vacuums here

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                      • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

                        I disagree. Socialists often tactically partner with liberals on shared goals, despite the risks. Knowing that, when forced to choose, liberals have historically sided with fascists, because fascists will never upend capitalism.

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                        It makes tactical sense to partner with liberals in some contexts, like a national liberation struggle, and to put aside lesser contradictions to focus on the principal contradiction. It doesn't make sense to partner with liberals while under capitalism, especially not within the imperial core. The liberals in congress don't have a shared goal in stopping fascism.

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                          Yep. Which means we need to run for government positions in a way we can win

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                          Yes, true that.

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                          • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                            The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                            On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                            • Be kind

                            • Ask people what they think, and why

                            • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                            • Engage sincerely

                            • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                            • Make this small space worth being in

                            A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                            Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                            The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                            No. Kindness is often a tool for conservatives to maintain power. It's important, but integrity is more important.

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                            • ? Guest

                              What is a tankie?

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                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie#Modern_Internet_uses but actually https://www.joewrote.com/p/jfk-files-reveal-the-cia-role-in

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                                Generalizing is logical fallacy. Not all Republicans are Nazis.

                                Some are rotten. Some are good people that just got duped.

                                It's not black and white.

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                                If you’ve been getting duped for 50 years, then maybe you’re just too stupid to vote. People with a bit of a plant in their pocket have been disenfranchised for a lot less

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                                  Nope. They've had plenty of time to see the results of their actions. They're complicit at this point.

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                                  That’s the part that I still can’t wrap my head around. We know it will be shameless shilling and nepotism along with stochastic terrorism and still vote for it anyway? Wtf

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                                    If you’ve been getting duped for 50 years, then maybe you’re just too stupid to vote. People with a bit of a plant in their pocket have been disenfranchised for a lot less

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                                    MAGA wasn't formed until 2016, the party was much different before Trump. But who cares I guess. It seems people just want to hate the other side here. Which is no better than them.

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                                    • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                                      It makes tactical sense to partner with liberals in some contexts, like a national liberation struggle, and to put aside lesser contradictions to focus on the principal contradiction. It doesn't make sense to partner with liberals while under capitalism, especially not within the imperial core. The liberals in congress don't have a shared goal in stopping fascism.

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                                      What, a Zionist genocidaire giving a performative twenty five hour faux filibuster is not stopping fascism?

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                                      • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                        That is a very specific interpretation of what I meant by this post.

                                        To be perfectly honest, I really wasn't making the point you should approve of nazis. Just that maybe it's worth putting effort into being kind to one another...

                                        For example, I constantly see leftists online biting eachother's heads off (including on lemmy) for having slightly different left-wing ideology. Its not like "approach people you disagree with with curiosity" means specifically actual neonazis, and approaching someone with curiosity doesn't mean telling people "your idea is correct and you're right for thinking it"

                                        It means trying to understand it. You can dislike someone and still gain from better understanding their worldview. Even if you think it's harmful. Even if you think it's illogical. Even if you think they're wrong. Curiousity isn't tacit approval.

                                        If you want to think about it cynically you can consider it creating allies and knowing your enemy.

                                        I understand we disagree on certain things, that's okay, these are just my thoughts on the subject, and it's a profoundly important one, so I can appreciate why people would have different strongly held beliefs on it. Hope you have a good one 🙂

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                                        Right wingers voted for the Republicans who are now attempting a fascist coup.

                                        Idk what to tell you

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                                          MAGA wasn't formed until 2016, the party was much different before Trump. But who cares I guess. It seems people just want to hate the other side here. Which is no better than them.

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                                          It seems people just want to hate the other side here. Which is no better than them.

                                          🙄

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