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Those of you that have negative sentiments towards AI: What would you want to happen right now?

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  • venusaur@lemmy.worldV [email protected]

    Lots of people on Lemmy really dislike AI’s current implementations and use cases.

    I’m trying to understand what people would want to be happening right now.

    Destroy gen AI? Implement laws? Hoping all companies use it for altruistic purposes to help all of mankind?

    Thanks for the discourse. Please keep it civil, but happy to be your punching bag.

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    Like a lot of others, my biggest gripe is the accepted copyright violation for the wealthy. They should have to license data (text, images, video, audio,) for their models, or use material in the public domain. With that in mind, in return I'd love to see pushes to drastically reduce the duration of copyright. My goal is less about destroying generative AI, as annoying as it is, and more about leveraging the money being it to change copyright law.

    I don't love the environmental effects but I think the carbon output of OpenAI is probably less than TikTok, and no one cares about that because they enjoy TikTok more. The energy issue is honestly a bigger problem than AI. And while I understand and appreciate people worried about throwing more weight on the scales, I'm not sure it's enough to really matter. I think we need bigger "what if" scenarios to handle that.

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      What about models folks run at home?

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      #17

      Careful, that might require a nuanced discussion that reveals the inherent evil of capitalism and neoliberalism. Better off just ensuring that wealthy corporations can monopolize the technology and abuse artists by paying them next-to-nothing for their stolen work rather than nothing at all.

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      • venusaur@lemmy.worldV [email protected]

        Lots of people on Lemmy really dislike AI’s current implementations and use cases.

        I’m trying to understand what people would want to be happening right now.

        Destroy gen AI? Implement laws? Hoping all companies use it for altruistic purposes to help all of mankind?

        Thanks for the discourse. Please keep it civil, but happy to be your punching bag.

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        I’d like for it to be forgotten, because it’s not AI.

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          Are you not aware that Google also runs on giant data centers that eat enormous amounts of power too?

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          This is like saying a giant truck is the same as a civic for a 2 hr commute ...

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            There's no way that's even feasible. Instead, AI models trained on pubically available data should be considered part of the public domain. So, any images that anyone can go and look at without a barrier in the way, would be fair game, but the model would be owned by the public.

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              This is like saying a giant truck is the same as a civic for a 2 hr commute ...

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              Per: https://www.rwdigital.ca/blog/how-much-energy-do-google-search-and-chatgpt-use/

              Google search currently uses 1.05GWh/day. ChatGPT currently uses 621.4MWh/day

              The per-entry cost for google is about 10% of what it is for GPT but it gets used quite a lot more. So for one user 'just use google' is fine, but since are making proscriptions for all of society here we should consider that there are ~300 million cars in the US, even if they were all honda civics they would still burn a shitload of gas and create a shitload of fossil fuel emissions. All I'm saying if the goal is to reduce emissions we should look at the big picture, which will let you understand that taking the bus will do you a lot better than trading in your F-150 for a Civic.

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              • venusaur@lemmy.worldV [email protected]

                Lots of people on Lemmy really dislike AI’s current implementations and use cases.

                I’m trying to understand what people would want to be happening right now.

                Destroy gen AI? Implement laws? Hoping all companies use it for altruistic purposes to help all of mankind?

                Thanks for the discourse. Please keep it civil, but happy to be your punching bag.

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                License it's usage

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                  Per: https://www.rwdigital.ca/blog/how-much-energy-do-google-search-and-chatgpt-use/

                  Google search currently uses 1.05GWh/day. ChatGPT currently uses 621.4MWh/day

                  The per-entry cost for google is about 10% of what it is for GPT but it gets used quite a lot more. So for one user 'just use google' is fine, but since are making proscriptions for all of society here we should consider that there are ~300 million cars in the US, even if they were all honda civics they would still burn a shitload of gas and create a shitload of fossil fuel emissions. All I'm saying if the goal is to reduce emissions we should look at the big picture, which will let you understand that taking the bus will do you a lot better than trading in your F-150 for a Civic.

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                  Google search currently uses 1.05GWh/day. ChatGPT currently uses 621.4MWh/day

                  ....

                  And oranges are orange

                  It doesn't matter what the totals are when people are talking about one or the other for a single use.

                  Less people commute to work on private jets than buses, are you gonna say jets are fine and buses are the issue?

                  Because that's where your logic ends up

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                    I’d like for it to be forgotten, because it’s not AI.

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                    #24

                    Thank you.

                    It has to come from the C suite to be "AI". Otherwise it's just sparkling ML.

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                    • venusaur@lemmy.worldV [email protected]

                      Lots of people on Lemmy really dislike AI’s current implementations and use cases.

                      I’m trying to understand what people would want to be happening right now.

                      Destroy gen AI? Implement laws? Hoping all companies use it for altruistic purposes to help all of mankind?

                      Thanks for the discourse. Please keep it civil, but happy to be your punching bag.

                      rockerface@lemm.eeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Rename it to LLMs, because that's that it is. When the hype label is gone, it won't get shoved into everywhere for shits and giggles and be used for stuff it's actually useful for.

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