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Without mentioning smartphones or social media, what societal changes have you noticed over the course of your lifetime?

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  • K [email protected]

    Why specify the year? Everyone knows what 9/11 is, it's not going to get confused with another 9/11.

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    Because over time people will forget the year. Like many hear July 4th and couldn’t tell you it is for 1776. People get lazy, and knowing the year gives a nice reference for time and how it has gone by.

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    • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

      More aggressive driving. Statistics even support it so it's not just an anecdotal thing.

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      I’ve noticed that too. I also noticed a very large uptick after Covid and things opened back up. It seems like people genuinely forgot tact, decency, and rules. It’s weird because Covid wasn’t THAT long that we were locked down.

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      • M [email protected]

        Bigger cars, wider roads, more lanes, more noise, longer commutes

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        Brighter lights

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          Because over time people will forget the year. Like many hear July 4th and couldn’t tell you it is for 1776. People get lazy, and knowing the year gives a nice reference for time and how it has gone by.

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          Man sometimes I forget just how utterly brain dead some people are. Forgetting 1776.

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          • E [email protected]

            Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

            A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

            Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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            In not particular order, and a kind reminder that I'm not from US so some things may look different if you are from there:

            People are far noisier, as there is less concerns by being judged by your neighbors. People used to behave purely out of shame. Now the shame is gone and people are wild.

            Vast increase in dog ownership. There's literally more dog than small kids in my country from several years now.

            Vast increase in immigration. Statistics are weird here, as we give citizenship to a great amount of migrants in just two years, and here is illegal to record statistics based on ethnicity, country of origin or any aspect that would identify anyone's ancestry. But my neighborhood went to 90-10 national-immigrant to 40-60. I live in a poor neighborhood so it's not the same in all parts of the country, but immigration increase is there and it's a big change.

            Less violence overall. Street violence overall seems lower. Also there's less of a terrorists threat as we used to have (there were several active terrorists groups here that are now gone).

            A housing problem. People used to get a house without issues. Now it's one of the biggest issues of young people.

            Increase of tolerance towards homosexuality. It's view as something very normal nowadays I think, and it use not to be that way.

            Increase of equality between men and women. Direct discrimination is completely outlaw and hard to see. Indirect discrimination may still exist but is on a all time low. Most bosses I have had in all my jobs have been women (for giving a small example).

            People go on vacation more often and further away. When I was young people used to just go one time a year on vacation, most of the time to a national place. Now people go several times a year to foreign countries, and "travel" have become the most important thing in many people's lives (how many dating profiles have I seen in which the person pointed traveling as their life moto).

            Most people have university studies. It didn't used to be that way.

            There's probably much more. Those are the first things that came into my mind.

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            • E [email protected]

              Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

              A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

              Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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              smoking

              gay

              Amazon

              conspiracy

              racism

              mental health

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              • E [email protected]

                Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

                A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

                Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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                I've watched things go from "how can we profit from this?" to "how much can we profit from this without quite killing the plebs?"

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                • K [email protected]

                  Man sometimes I forget just how utterly brain dead some people are. Forgetting 1776.

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                  Is 1776 an American thing? Because it does not seem to ring a bell for me...

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                  • E [email protected]

                    Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

                    A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

                    Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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                    There are more idiots. Flatearthers, space deniers, antivaxxers. The more information people have access to the less intelligent society seems to get.

                    Surveillance Capitalism is getting more out of hand every year. Combined with more data breaches it's not great.

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                    • A [email protected]

                      I want to add Adventure Time to the good list. There definitely are some episodes that feel "lol random" but there's a longer story arc that's actually really deeply explored

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                      Absolutely. I didn't realize they did more of a story arc until I ended up seeing clips on yt. I definitely remember some of the lore episodes but I definitely wasn't smart enough to piece together any lore. I might have to suffer through the occasional "lol random" episodes just to see the lore through.

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                      • M [email protected]

                        Is Arcane a cartoon?

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                        Don't 100% sure whether it is or not. Also, I couldn't tell you anything about it since I haven't watched it as someone who doesn't play League.

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                        • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                          Outside of formal settings, I'd say that it's uncommon for women to wear skirts or dresses in day-to-day life now.

                          Menswear is considerably more casual. This is a trend that's been going for over a century or so, so it certainly didn't just happen during my life, but it did significantly change in that time.

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                          I was a nurse in the US from 2015-2020 and in that time I saw one “old school” nurse who wore a white scrubs dress and white stockings/shoes. Every day that I saw her she was dressed this way so it wasn’t like for an event or something. Just working on the L&D floor. No hat though. Honestly no idea how anyone did the job of nursing in a damn dress anyway but they all did for a very long time before I was in the profession. Every time I saw her I was just jealous that she must not be cleaning up like, ANY shit where she works. For graduation we all wore the little hat, then that was the end of that forever.

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                          • sixtyforce@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                            I was trying to think of specifics, but they're already getting mentioned. I'd just say a lot of these things stem from there being literally double the amount of humans alive right now than when my dad was born. An individual is devalued immensely and cultural cohesion is completely shot.

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                            Yes, absolutely, as the population has increased, so has the feeling of being in the proverbial crab bucket.

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                            • P [email protected]

                              It absolutely has. Before Rodney King it was always fine. From 1992 to about 2014 it was mostly fine. From 2014-2020, it was a debate, and after 2020, they're pretty much always guilty. There's a whole interesting conversation to be had about why it was that all kinds of riot and peaceful protest had basically 0 result until 2014-2020, and then in 2020 it all of a sudden starting working significantly.

                              Anyway, now under Trump, some of the reform is going backwards. There were some outlier departments that were still in the 1992 mode, and the feds were doing some things to try to come down on them, whereas now it's the opposite, Trump is actively pardoning dirty cops. Great stuff.

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                              It was not fine. There was a whole riot about it and everything.

                              The only thing that's changed recently is that cops can occasionally be held accountable if they cause enough embarrassment to the powers that be.

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                                It was not fine. There was a whole riot about it and everything.

                                The only thing that's changed recently is that cops can occasionally be held accountable if they cause enough embarrassment to the powers that be.

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                                Can you name three incidents since 2020 where the cops have not been charged? I know of one, and even that one has an asterisk next to it. Before 2020 it was multiple every year, there used to be these massive walls with names written on them.

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  If a single act of terrorism can remove an entire ethnic group from whiteness, then I wanna see the rest of the world agree that European Americans aren't white. It would be funny

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                                  some European right wingers already believe this

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                                  • E [email protected]

                                    Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

                                    A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

                                    Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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                                    Humanity getting dumber and dumber…

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                                    • E [email protected]

                                      Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

                                      A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

                                      Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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                                      I think for me in my country it would be the collapse of the social contract. The bonds that society regulates itself.

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                                      • E [email protected]

                                        Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

                                        A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

                                        Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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                                        Design has changed. Instead of building powerful featues that are available to the user however they want to use it. The focus has shifted to providing a simplified linear interface where pressing a single button does the task and the tools to modify the action are hidden from the user. So if your use case doesnt 100% allign youre fucked.

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

                                          A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

                                          Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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                                          Isolation of individuals and the growing loss of ownership of, well, everything.

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