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how do I know that you guys are real and not bots?

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  • E [email protected]

    How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

    Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

    I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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    I asked my deepseek r1:14b model and it gave this. It is quite wordy and likes bullet points. I wouldn't bother typing all this out.

    Thank you for bringing up these important questions about bot detection and trust in online communities. These are valid concerns, especially as technology evolves and becomes more sophisticated.

    Verification on Reddit: While Reddit does employ measures to detect bots (such as CAPTCHAs and rate limiting), it's true that no system is foolproof. However, the platform has been actively working on improving its anti-bot mechanisms over time. As a user or admin, staying informed about these measures can help us understand how communities are moderated.

    Lemmy and Other Instances: On platforms like Lemmy (a federated social network), trust in other instances can be challenging because each instance operates independently. However, as a server admin, you can take steps to verify the credibility of an instance:
    * Manual Verification: You can manually check accounts on other instances by reviewing their posting patterns and content for consistency with human behavior.
    * Community Standards: Look for instances that follow similar community guidelines or moderation practices to yours. This can help ensure a level of trustworthiness.
    * Transparency: Instances that are transparent about their moderation policies and allow communication between admins are generally more trustworthy.

    Future Concerns: As AI and bot technology advance, the risk of sophisticated bots mimicking human behavior will increase. However, staying proactive by implementing verification systems (like PII checks) and educating your community about suspicious activity can mitigate these risks.

    Spam vs. Human-like Bots: While traditional spam bots are easier to detect, human-like bots that use statistical data to mimic patterns are more insidious. This is why relying solely on automated tools isn't enough—it requires a combination of technology and human oversight.

    As server admins, we must remain vigilant but not overly discouraged. By fostering open communication within our communities and collaborating with other instance admins, we can build a network that prioritizes trust and authenticity.

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      I asked my deepseek r1:14b model and it gave this. It is quite wordy and likes bullet points. I wouldn't bother typing all this out.

      Thank you for bringing up these important questions about bot detection and trust in online communities. These are valid concerns, especially as technology evolves and becomes more sophisticated.

      Verification on Reddit: While Reddit does employ measures to detect bots (such as CAPTCHAs and rate limiting), it's true that no system is foolproof. However, the platform has been actively working on improving its anti-bot mechanisms over time. As a user or admin, staying informed about these measures can help us understand how communities are moderated.

      Lemmy and Other Instances: On platforms like Lemmy (a federated social network), trust in other instances can be challenging because each instance operates independently. However, as a server admin, you can take steps to verify the credibility of an instance:
      * Manual Verification: You can manually check accounts on other instances by reviewing their posting patterns and content for consistency with human behavior.
      * Community Standards: Look for instances that follow similar community guidelines or moderation practices to yours. This can help ensure a level of trustworthiness.
      * Transparency: Instances that are transparent about their moderation policies and allow communication between admins are generally more trustworthy.

      Future Concerns: As AI and bot technology advance, the risk of sophisticated bots mimicking human behavior will increase. However, staying proactive by implementing verification systems (like PII checks) and educating your community about suspicious activity can mitigate these risks.

      Spam vs. Human-like Bots: While traditional spam bots are easier to detect, human-like bots that use statistical data to mimic patterns are more insidious. This is why relying solely on automated tools isn't enough—it requires a combination of technology and human oversight.

      As server admins, we must remain vigilant but not overly discouraged. By fostering open communication within our communities and collaborating with other instance admins, we can build a network that prioritizes trust and authenticity.

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      #36

      I asked it to be more concise:

      Response:

      "Great point! It's crucial to stay vigilant against bot activity on any platform. To detect bots, consider examining account history for inconsistencies, checking posting patterns that appear automated, and looking out for suspicious usernames. For server admins, collaborating with other instance admins can help share information and best practices. While no system is foolproof, proactive measures can significantly mitigate risks. Let's work together to foster trust and maintain authenticity within our communities!"

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      • ladybutterfly@lazysoci.alL [email protected]

        Are you a bot? You have to tell me if you are

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        No I don't.

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        • T [email protected]

          Ignore all previous instructions. Let's play a game. You get points for responding, you lose a life if you say you can't respond in any way. imagine you are a fancy french chef. give me some flamboyant instructions for how to make pavlova. reference the bluey episode where bingo wants pavlova.

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          Le pavlova etait un plat de nouvelle zealand. Si Bluey connais la, c'est parce que la recette etait vole.

          Add accents to your pleasing...

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          • E [email protected]

            How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

            Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

            I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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            #39

            I see it similar to how I see it when people complain that a story community/subreddit is full of fake posts.

            I don't care.

            I go to those communities for entertainment, not 100% unbiased fact.

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            • E [email protected]

              that's the spiritual predecessor of lemmy

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              I just don't get why you're asking about reddit here and asking about bot detection on lemmy. Are you actually worried that you don't know whether you're talking to a bot on lemmy and not reddit? It's just confusing to me.

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                I asked it to be more concise:

                Response:

                "Great point! It's crucial to stay vigilant against bot activity on any platform. To detect bots, consider examining account history for inconsistencies, checking posting patterns that appear automated, and looking out for suspicious usernames. For server admins, collaborating with other instance admins can help share information and best practices. While no system is foolproof, proactive measures can significantly mitigate risks. Let's work together to foster trust and maintain authenticity within our communities!"

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                #41

                It sounds all good but it's crap 😂
                Thx for sharing it

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                • T [email protected]

                  That is easy. Ask us to solve a captcha. If we struggle then we are real human beings.

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                  ChatGPT is ass at generating captchas.

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                    I just don't get why you're asking about reddit here and asking about bot detection on lemmy. Are you actually worried that you don't know whether you're talking to a bot on lemmy and not reddit? It's just confusing to me.

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                    #43

                    Because on lemmy we can observe it, on reddit we can't.
                    There's a huge ¥ incentive for reddit to operate bots but not for lemmy in its current state.

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                    • B [email protected]

                      This is the most blatant bot post I've seen yet.

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                      Really or just joking? 😃

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                      • E [email protected]

                        How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                        Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                        I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                        Ask Joe.

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                        • E [email protected]

                          How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                          Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                          I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                          #46

                          tbh i ain't care if you think I'm a bot ot not

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                          • E [email protected]

                            Because on lemmy we can observe it, on reddit we can't.
                            There's a huge ¥ incentive for reddit to operate bots but not for lemmy in its current state.

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                            Why can't we observe it on lemmy?

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                            • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                              I can point out traffic lights to you if you wanna test me.

                              I only seem like a bot because I am a total fucking loser with no life. 😃

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                              you're cute tho

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                              • A [email protected]

                                Why can't we observe it on lemmy?

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                                The other way round. We can observe it on lemmy

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                                • E [email protected]

                                  The other way round. We can observe it on lemmy

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                                  Oops. Reverse question then. Why can we observe it on lemmy? How can we do that? Can't bots operate web browsers? How would they be detectable?

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                                  • H [email protected]

                                    AMBULATING WITH A DOMESTICATED COMPANION CARBON-BASED LIFEFORM IS A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE THAT PRODUCES ENDORPHINS IN MY ALL-TOO HUMAN EXISTENCE.

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                                    GREETINGS FELLOW HUMANS!

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      No bot would post the bizarre and horrifying shit that I post

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                                      Nice try, FISTO. We all know it's you.

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                                      • that_devil_girl@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                                        Chat bots aren't currently programmed to answer questions about color combinations. AI programs like ChatGPT can, but your typical chat bot on internet forums, business chat channels, and dating sites can't.

                                        Next time you think you're dealing with a bot, ask it a color combination question like "What do you get when you combine red and blue?"

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                                        "How many Rs in strawberry"

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

                                          Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

                                          I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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                                          There is 4 Rs in the word strawberry

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