Ukraine war: China accounts for 80% of sanctions circumvention routes against Russia, but denies involvement, German Foreign Ministry says
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Lol give me a break, Chinese consumers don't buy shit, neither local nor imported from abroad. They are getting wealthier but they don't spend it.
Lol, and you don't see a way for China to fix this?
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Lol give me a break, Chinese consumers don't buy shit, neither local nor imported from abroad. They are getting wealthier but they don't spend it.
A large percentage of Chinas gdp is domestic consumption, and that percentage is growing by leaps and bounds year over year. They are moving away from reliance on export, though not there yet.
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Lol, and you don't see a way for China to fix this?
Sure they could, but I think they rather give Russia less support than having to help all the companies that struggle because of their lost income.
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That’s literally exactly what neutrality means, they don’t care who you consider an enemy because they’re not picking a side
Aside from the fact that China accounts for 80% of sanctions circumvention routes against Russia, thus supporting the Kremlin in its war, China is supplying Russian military factories with chemicals, gunpowder, components, just to name another example.
Yeah but they're not doing it for free and both China and India are paying cheap rates for Russian oil. If Russia is using that oil to barter for goods then that helps them but not the Russian coffers. This war will end when Russia runs out of money and can't pay large signing bonuses anymore.
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Sure they could, but I think they rather give Russia less support than having to help all the companies that struggle because of their lost income.
For China, there exists a bigger risk than losing business. The USA could do a naval blockade. China cannot survive that without Russia. They won't sacrifice their security for short term profits.
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For China, there exists a bigger risk than losing business. The USA could do a naval blockade. China cannot survive that without Russia. They won't sacrifice their security for short term profits.
What dependency on Russia am I missing here?
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What dependency on Russia am I missing here?
From where could they get oil and food if there is a naval blockade?
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From where could they get oil and food if there is a naval blockade?
Don't know, maybe nowhere.
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I feel China isn't under enough pressure, they get to play both sides. I am normally not for 'you're either with us or against us'-diplomacy but if you can't support our enemy and consider yourself neutral at the same time.
China can endure more than the west so it would be a difficult fight to pick. Sure we could tackle their economy but Trump already lost that battle. It showed they were willing to take short term hits and they, as an authoritarian state, cam weather them better the west and the fledgling Oligopoly US.
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China can endure more than the west so it would be a difficult fight to pick. Sure we could tackle their economy but Trump already lost that battle. It showed they were willing to take short term hits and they, as an authoritarian state, cam weather them better the west and the fledgling Oligopoly US.
True, but his pressure was very hard and that is not the only way to put pressure on someone. I don't think any country should go about it like 'we will make them do what we want because we are big and powerful' but I think in this it would be fair to say 'these are our interests and if you harm them it will make us less willing to do things that are in your interest'.
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True, but his pressure was very hard and that is not the only way to put pressure on someone. I don't think any country should go about it like 'we will make them do what we want because we are big and powerful' but I think in this it would be fair to say 'these are our interests and if you harm them it will make us less willing to do things that are in your interest'.
When all you have is a broken hammer, everything is a nail about to get fucked.