If there was a dark pattern competition...
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Yes. It's when the UI leads YOU to do the thing you don't want. So unless the banner telling you that the site uses cookies is doing something to make you accept them when you don't want to accept them (such as by not having a button to not accept them visible) having cookies itself isn't a dark pattern.
This is... exactly what most sites do with their consent banners.
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I don't either, but in America biscuits are savory or near flavorless, not sweet like cookies.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I do be wondering what a British person would call a Southern style US biscuit... Which is sweet (they're usually glazed with honey), but still not like a cookie.
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This is... exactly what most sites do with their consent banners.
Most sites I've visited since they had to disclose their use of cookies have clearly visible "accept all" and "reject all" buttons, along with a "more information" button that often lets you configure what cookies you want and what you don't.
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Meme is true, sure, but that cookie looks effin delicious
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I do be wondering what a British person would call a Southern style US biscuit... Which is sweet (they're usually glazed with honey), but still not like a cookie.
I think they are closest to a scone. There's a YouTube series I can't recall the name of that has British teens try American foods. One of the ones they did was biscuits and gravy. The Brits were mostly in shock at how good it was.
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I love being able to build my own site that works like a motherfucking website. This example is even simpler, but in general, unless I am actively adding products to a cart, your website shouldn’t do jack but display media. Tired of all this modern web shit that attacks you every time you open a page.
Looking at you,
every news site in existence
Oh my beloved motherfucking website author, I do in fact remember when websites were good, it was about 15 or 20 years ago.. Sob (maybe more depending on who you ask)
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Most sites I've visited since they had to disclose their use of cookies have clearly visible "accept all" and "reject all" buttons, along with a "more information" button that often lets you configure what cookies you want and what you don't.
You must be visiting much more upstanding sites than I do!
For those still curious, here's an article with some examples of dark patterns.
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In America cookies are called cookies but all other biscuits are also called cookies.
In Australia lollipops are called lollies but all other kinds of sweets are also called lollies.
I don’t really know where I’m going with this.wrote on last edited by [email protected]... Are you aware that 'loli', pronounced the same as 'lollie'... is art (usually drawn) that depicts sexualized or nude children, and ... fans of, or viewers of loli... are called lolis?
I am reasonably confident this is widespread internet terminology across the entire English speaking internet at this point, but you being Australian and... possibly not being aware of this... makes me question that assumption somewhat.
That or perhaps you're older than me?
... Uh, anyway, in America we have 'fries' or 'french fries', but seemingly every other English speaking country calls them 'chips'.
Which is confusing to the hungry, overweight, American brain, because what we call chips, ya'll tend to call 'crisps'.
But at the same time, we can't even agree on whether or not a sugary, carbonated beverage is called soda, pop, or just coke, used to refer to all soft drinks, not just coca cola.
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They need to get better biscuits then!
Yes, ours are all limp.
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You must be visiting much more upstanding sites than I do!
For those still curious, here's an article with some examples of dark patterns.
Given that cookies are just one of many ways you can be tracked on the web, isn't the who cookie banner thing kind of pointless to begin with? You can be identified by the fonts on your system, browser size, add-ons, and canvas fingerprint, WebGL fingerprint, screen resolution, time zone offset, hardware specs, what peripherals are plugged-in... It goes on and on.
We don't need tracking cookie banners, we need tracking everything banners.
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When you disable saving cookies in your browser, you'll get this all the time. YouTube is the worst offender, because it takes ages to load (not because of internet).
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... Are you aware that 'loli', pronounced the same as 'lollie'... is art (usually drawn) that depicts sexualized or nude children, and ... fans of, or viewers of loli... are called lolis?
I am reasonably confident this is widespread internet terminology across the entire English speaking internet at this point, but you being Australian and... possibly not being aware of this... makes me question that assumption somewhat.
That or perhaps you're older than me?
... Uh, anyway, in America we have 'fries' or 'french fries', but seemingly every other English speaking country calls them 'chips'.
Which is confusing to the hungry, overweight, American brain, because what we call chips, ya'll tend to call 'crisps'.
But at the same time, we can't even agree on whether or not a sugary, carbonated beverage is called soda, pop, or just coke, used to refer to all soft drinks, not just coca cola.
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This is bizarrely off-topic.
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That is not how "loli" is pronounced--it's short for "Lolita", with a long "O" sound.
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Cookies are not inherently bad. How do you think identity and access management (logging into websites, etc) work?
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Yes, ours are all limp.
Tell me what you’re gonna do now.
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I think they are closest to a scone. There's a YouTube series I can't recall the name of that has British teens try American foods. One of the ones they did was biscuits and gravy. The Brits were mostly in shock at how good it was.
We’re pretty obsessed with gravy tbh. Never had a savoury scone but expect it must be a similar vibe to dumplings in a stew.
In Australia KFC automatically comes with a crappy little bread bun called a dinner roll and I don’t see the appeal.
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Blame the EU. There, cookies used to bother a tiny number of "privacy advocates" who were already perfectly capable of blocking the cookies in their own browsers but they weren't happy because no one else cared about cookies so they got the GDPR passed to bother everyone in the world.
Any chance you are English, Polish or Hungarian?
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In America cookies are called cookies but all other biscuits are also called cookies.
In Australia lollipops are called lollies but all other kinds of sweets are also called lollies.
I don’t really know where I’m going with this.English as a language was seen as too easy. So we decided to mix it up.
Why would you ever be the global language of trade and commerce and the go between for multiple nations, whose entire structure is a hodgepodge of latin, Germanic, and mistranslated root structures and made up rules, if you didn't decide to mix it up from time to time and region to region?
Embrace the bastard language standard. This is the way.
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Cookies are not inherently bad. How do you think identity and access management (logging into websites, etc) work?
Sure. But why does a website want to place a cookie when there is no IAM involved like news sites, blogs? For ad Tracking!
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... Are you aware that 'loli', pronounced the same as 'lollie'... is art (usually drawn) that depicts sexualized or nude children, and ... fans of, or viewers of loli... are called lolis?
I am reasonably confident this is widespread internet terminology across the entire English speaking internet at this point, but you being Australian and... possibly not being aware of this... makes me question that assumption somewhat.
That or perhaps you're older than me?
... Uh, anyway, in America we have 'fries' or 'french fries', but seemingly every other English speaking country calls them 'chips'.
Which is confusing to the hungry, overweight, American brain, because what we call chips, ya'll tend to call 'crisps'.
But at the same time, we can't even agree on whether or not a sugary, carbonated beverage is called soda, pop, or just coke, used to refer to all soft drinks, not just coca cola.
in America we have […] 'french fries'
And they aren't even french, they're belgian.
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They need to get better biscuits then!
What British people call biscuits are called cookies in America. American biscuits are more like what British people call scones