Kid gave a reasonable answer without all the math bullshit
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If you state that Marty ate more as part of the question, you cannot answer in any other way, because it denies mathematical logic here. You introduced a lie as part of the problem, and if I need to decide myself which part of the statement is a lie, I can pick whatever I want, let's say, Marty didn't ate 4/6, but 6/6. This teacher should be taken to the gulag.
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Teachers absolutely don't get paid as much as they should.
Also, I was kinda curious about what states have the strongest teacher unions and surprise surprise, it maps very closely to education quality, with Montana and Massachusetts probably being the biggest outliers.
In the USA maybe, teachers in Germany are paid quite well
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Why would you ask "How is this possible" when you expect the answer to be "it's not"?
Because they spent an entire math class period earlier that week explaining to the students what "reasonableness" was going to mean on their next math test, and in the context of (I'm guessing 3rd or 4th grade) arithmetic the important thing they're trying to teach is that 5/6 is a larger fraction than 4/6. I agree that the question could be worded better (change the last two sentences to "Marty says he ate more pizza. Is this possible?") but I strongly suspect that the missing context from their class - or maybe even at the beginning of the test - explains enough to get the answer the teacher was looking for here.
Yes, one kid starting with a larger pizza changes the situation, but fundamentally that's an algebra question, not a "learning fractions" question.
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Because they spent an entire math class period earlier that week explaining to the students what "reasonableness" was going to mean on their next math test, and in the context of (I'm guessing 3rd or 4th grade) arithmetic the important thing they're trying to teach is that 5/6 is a larger fraction than 4/6. I agree that the question could be worded better (change the last two sentences to "Marty says he ate more pizza. Is this possible?") but I strongly suspect that the missing context from their class - or maybe even at the beginning of the test - explains enough to get the answer the teacher was looking for here.
Yes, one kid starting with a larger pizza changes the situation, but fundamentally that's an algebra question, not a "learning fractions" question.
Well yes it is a learning fractions question. Pizza is not a number. Pizza is not a specification of size. It is absolutely crucial for understanding fractions, that a fraction of anything but two numbers will be factored by the size or whatever metric of that thing.
In the same wake you learn that "5" is not an answer to a typical physics calculation, as the unit is missing.
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Take that to the principal, stupid teachers shouldn't teach
... or have a bit of empathy and talk to the teacher like a human.
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The writing looks like first or second grade. Where do they teach fractions in that grade?
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The writing looks like first or second grade. Where do they teach fractions in that grade?
That looks like my writing now, and I’m in my 30s.
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Reminds me of the time when I got send to the principle for saying "fuck you" during class. I was saying it to a classmate, but the teacher felt it was directed at her.
Anyway, the principle (herself a German teacher, this happend in Germany) gave me detention and wrote a letter to my parents, saying it was because I made a sexist remark towards a teacher.
My Dad wrote back explaining the difference between a sexist and an obscene remark. They canceled my detention and I never heard about it again.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I was once called down to the principal’s office and told I would be expelled from my Catholic school because in spite of my catholic upbringing, I was an atheist (in the US, at a time when this was obviously illegal, given that the school accepted non catholic students of other religions). They called my dad and had me wait in the hall outside the principal’s office. For context, my dad’s an agnostic who doesn’t harbor any positive views towards the Catholic Church, but is a huge fan of educators and would always side with the teacher, no matter how unfair they were being.
My dad went straight in without acknowledging me and spoke with them inaudibly for about a minute, before the secretary came out and sent me back to class. I never heard anything about it from the school again and when my dad got home, he just said I didn’t need to worry about it. Decades later, he still won’t tell me exactly what happened, but I honestly think he might have forgotten and doesn’t want to admit it.
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That looks like my writing now, and I’m in my 30s.
Damn, hope you graduate to Third Grade by 40!
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The question is stupid, but the kid's answer is still wrong.
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I know this is bait but who said they had the same-sized pizzas?
One could be XL the other one a personal pizza.
I know this is bait but who said they had the same-sized pizzas?
That's a base assumption when you compare fractions in these word problems.
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The question is stupid, but the kid's answer is still wrong.
How is it wrong?
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When I was in elementary, my teacher said that "Lutetia" was how the Romans called the city of Liege. As an avid reader of Asterix comics, I knew this isn't true and corrected her and said it was the Roman name of Paris. She insisted that it is Liege. Anyway, the next day, she came back to class and said that she looked it up and that I was indeed correct and Lutetia referred to Paris and gave me a chocolate bar and told me to keep reading comics. Good teacher.
I always knew someone else knew about the series!
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Teacher got the worksheet from someone else and didn't know the answer.
Or teacher didn't even see this, handed it to a high school student and said "grade this stack of papers"
I had that happen several times in science classes in 3rd-8th grade. Eventually I started arguing with the teachers in class, and boy did they not like being corrected.
Sorry Ms Avery, you not knowing that "Pb" is the abbreviation of the Latin word "plumbum", where we also get "plumbing" from due to its use in piping in rome, doesn't mean I got the answer wrong. To her credit, she looked it up and changed my grade before the end of class.
Ms hoschouli from 7th grade can get fucked though, a parallel circuit increases amperage load, not voltage load. I knew more about electronics in 7th grade than a college graduate who teaches science class, which in hindsight isn't that impressive considering it was general science and not electronics specific... But in 7th grade, as far as I was concerned I was hot shit for knowing more than the teacher, and getting detention for calling her out in the middle of class. Never got the grade changed and I only got out of detention because my parents called the school.
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I always knew someone else knew about the series!
An animated miniseries came out this year too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix_and_Obelix%253A_The_Big_Fight
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How is it wrong?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It's a basic assumption in these word problems. For instance, when they ask you to compare 2/4 and 2/8, you know that you can transform 2/4 to 4/8 and see that it's greater than 2/8 (0.5 > 0.25). It's a basic school program, there are no tricks here. It's a pure math exercise.
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It's a basic assumption in these word problems. For instance, when they ask you to compare 2/4 and 2/8, you know that you can transform 2/4 to 4/8 and see that it's greater than 2/8 (0.5 > 0.25). It's a basic school program, there are no tricks here. It's a pure math exercise.
It’s a basic assumption in these word problems.
When the question is "How is it possible?" then basic assumptions go out the window.
It’s a pure math exercise.
No, it even days "Reasonableness" above the problem.
Within the paramters of the question the kids answer is reasonable and correct.
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It’s a basic assumption in these word problems.
When the question is "How is it possible?" then basic assumptions go out the window.
It’s a pure math exercise.
No, it even days "Reasonableness" above the problem.
Within the paramters of the question the kids answer is reasonable and correct.
I guess your math teacher failed you too.
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The writing looks like first or second grade. Where do they teach fractions in that grade?
Boys in particular, (though girls are not exempt from poor handwriting), will have "poor" penmanship pretty much all through elementary school and even into Jr High. And fractions are generally introduced at the end of the 3rd grade school year. And based on the question, that's the likely grade level that test was created for.
I would bet that most of the students in that class got the answer correct because they were coached to read the question correctly-- to look for the fractions and simply compare them. And anyone else that didn't, simply chose the wrong answer. Still, you will get a surprise answer like that every once in a while because kids are cool like that. It's worth a chuckle as you move on.
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Because these "teacher is dumber than a child" pictures are always fake. I've never seen a teacher write corrections on a student's paper. Are they doing that for every wrong question on every paper? That would take forever!
Are they doing that for every wrong question on every paper? That would take forever!
I work in education in Texas. Yes, they do. And yes, it does. Now, most things are digital, so they have kids make a copy of the Google Doc and then grade that and leave comments on it. But if they have paper assignments, they often leave notes on them. Leaving notes on assignments and tests/quizzes (which is likely what this was) is part of their professional review.
Also, part of their regular professional review is whether or not they're keeping proper documentation on student behavior. Different tiers of behavioral issues require different documentation/communication. So, not only are they writing notes on tests/assignments, they're writing documentation on hundreds of students, contacting dozens of parents, creating lesson plans that have to be available in advance for parental review in case any parents want to dispute the materials, and they're getting regular reviews.
And then, when all the kids are off enjoying summer, the teachers are working their summer job to supplement their shitty pay. And they're going to mandatory "Professional Learning" courses to keep their teaching certification, some of which they are required to pay from their own pocket to attend.
In San Antonio, we don't really have any "small" districts, so the numbers in the second paragraph assumes an elementary school of 300-600, middle school of 800-1200, or high school of 1200-2000 students.
