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  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

    It ain't stupid if it works

    Unless it's this

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    "If it's stupid but works, it wasn't stupid" doesn't apply to safety or security.

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      I cannot for the life of me understand how someone could willingly boars one of those monstrosities

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      They're a vacation where everything is taken care of for you. Find a spot, read a book, get all the drinks you want. Need food? Walk over to the chosen food place. Even with thousands of people on board, you can generally find a quiet spot with drinks.

      There's all-inclusive resorts, yes, and I've found they're generally more expensive than cruises. If you make your resort hotel float, it's cheaper. I don't know why.

      I'd only go anymore if it's a trip that would show things you generally can't see other ways, such as the coast of Alaska or Norway, or going through the Panama Canal. Caribbean cruises are an absolute waste.

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        The only issue is they aren't wearing harnesses in case they fall off.

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        The other issue is when I chuck a stupendous peg-leg bombie next to their aqua-franken-scissor-tower.

        Surfs up mfs.

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          I have done way sketchier shit than that. That is like a 4/10.

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          This you?

          175554

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          • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

            those sailing boat keels are lead-filled (at least at the bottom) and hydrodynamic so that the force of the running water pushes it back to center. it's a lot easier to capsize a boat like that when it's not moving.

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            There are centreboards (not lead-filled) that use the movement of the boat to counteract leeward drift and there are are lead-filled keels that in addition to that also act as a counterweight to reduce rolling. If it's lead-filled it'll be hard to capsize, if it's just a centreboard you can easily capsize it if it's not moving (and use the centreboard as a lever to recover it afterwards).

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              "If it's stupid but works, it wasn't stupid" doesn't apply to safety or security.

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              Well no one died the first 3 times

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                A masterpiece!

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                  If it works, it's not hybris, is it?

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                    Dunno what you mean with hecklers but you arrive at a part, tour the city, go eat somewhere, you know, spend time in the destination city and then you move on.

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                    You don't have time though. They typically only stay there for a day.

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                      those sailing boat keels are lead-filled (at least at the bottom) and hydrodynamic so that the force of the running water pushes it back to center. it's a lot easier to capsize a boat like that when it's not moving.

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                      Maybe so but a boat isn’t submerged flatly like the square span of this floaty thing on the picture. If it also had some pole thingy underwater we can’t see then I wouldn’t be surprised people felt ok climbing this machinery

                      Additionally if it’s like filled with air, empty inside, then it would be really hard to capsize this thing at all because of how it refuses to sink from any corner or side

                      It’s not as dramatic as it looks is my point, looks funny but actually it’s probably pretty safe because we under appreciate the lifting force of floaty shit filled with air. Boats need to be hydrodynamic so they are naturally more prone to shenanigans like a barrel on the water would be but this square thing is dedicated to sole task of not capsizing with great resistance to being submerged at any point of itself

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                        you guys can afford these things?

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                        A week long cruise can be had all in for less than a couple thousand bucks. Not the cheapest vacation, but not the most expensive. One can spend way more depending on the room and any extras spent.

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                          They're a vacation where everything is taken care of for you. Find a spot, read a book, get all the drinks you want. Need food? Walk over to the chosen food place. Even with thousands of people on board, you can generally find a quiet spot with drinks.

                          There's all-inclusive resorts, yes, and I've found they're generally more expensive than cruises. If you make your resort hotel float, it's cheaper. I don't know why.

                          I'd only go anymore if it's a trip that would show things you generally can't see other ways, such as the coast of Alaska or Norway, or going through the Panama Canal. Caribbean cruises are an absolute waste.

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                          There's all-inclusive resorts, yes, and I've found they're generally more expensive than cruises. If you make your resort hotel float, it's cheaper. I don't know why.

                          Because you can get away with following very few regulations if you’re in international waters, and pollute the shit out of the environment. Cruises are horrible, environmentally speaking.

                          My wife’s family loves cruises. I have made it very clear that I am morally opposed and will not join them on one, but her mom has tried to schedule a cruise as a family vacation anyway at least twice. I think she now finally understands I’m not going to be convinced by being told how much fun they are, after I outright said, “I understand they’re awesome, I’m sure I would love it, but I am not going to support that industry and its practices.”

                          At one point I honestly think she thought if she just got it scheduled and everyone else was onboard I’d come along. Fortunately she never got that far.

                          (I promise she’s actually a pretty cool person, I love my mother-in-law very much, but she can be stubborn.)

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                            What is enjoyable about a floating, overcrowded shopping center that makes you seasick?

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                            What's wrong with floating? The boats are huge. Unless it's rough seas, you don't know that you're on water.

                            All of the shipping centers are in lower floors dedicated to shopping. Don't want to buy anything? Just don't go to floor 7, it's that easy to avoid. If you get seasick, then maybe cruises aren't for you, but motion sickness medicine is available for those that do have the ailment. If pulled off the side of a catamaran in Hawaii, which is when I found out that I do get motion sickness. That's never been an issue in a cruise for me. Again, they are so large, it's like not being on a boat at all.

                            All of you arguments stem down to, "why would someone go on a trip that they don't want to go on?" The answer is, don't, but there are a ton of reasons that people do. I don't go to casinos and gamble, because they're dirty and I don't like gambling.

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                              If it works, it's not hybris, is it?

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                              It's the thought that counts.

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                                You don't have time though. They typically only stay there for a day.

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                                That's plenty of time for a quick visit though?

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                                  This you?

                                  175554

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                                  That's like a 2/10. He has 3 points of contact.

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                                    If it works, it's not hybris, is it?

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                                    If it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid.

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                                      Trust them. They're engineers.

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                                      Lol, they're wearing hard hats correctly. No, there are no engineers in this image.

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                                        Make sure you have all your PPE.

                                        Hard hat ✔️
                                        Safety glasses ✔️
                                        Swimmies ✔️

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                                          I get that it looks risky, but I don't really see a problem here. The platform is in undisturbed water, no waves, no sudden changes. If the platform is strong enough, which it seems to be to me, it will not easily tip over.

                                          I've worked on a few lifts like that, and if you manage to tip one over I can only say that you were either really stupid or you were trying to do it. All the weight is at the bottom. They are very stable.

                                          The only way to make them fall over is if your floor is not level while driving. Driving is out of the question in this picture, and as long as both guys stay in the fork lift the center of gravity will not change much.

                                          So the platform will not move, the lift will not move, basically they are fine.

                                          If something was to happen you're fucked though.

                                          And different solutions are available. I've personally been in a different lift that had an arm so the lift would be a the side of the pool and the part where I was standing was elevated above the water. That probably would be a better solution, if you have enough space to get one of those lifts in.

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