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  • D [email protected]

    After all the self-important blowhards in the committe were satisified that they had put their fingerprint on the ISO8601 document with bullshit like "year-month-week" format support and signed off, they went home.

    The rest stayed behind, waited a few minutes to be safe, and then quickly made RFC3339 like a proper standard.

    This is what RFC3339 vs ISO8601 feels like.

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    Let's not forget that technically you have to pay for ISO8601, despite it being nearly useless as a standard because it allows several incompatible formats to coexist.

    Fucking wild.

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      MM/DD/YY for me.

      Edit: I learned something new today.

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      I'm giving you a pity upvote lol

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        DD-MM-YYYY-HH-MM-SS

        Makes no sense!

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        I prefer the alphabetical date format DD-HH-MM-SS-mm-yy for maximum confusion

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          When talking about the date with another human, DD/MM (+YYYY if required); when doing anything related to the sorting of files by date, YYYY/MM/DD.

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            The O is for the kind of whooshing sound

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            I see it now FML. Editing my comment.

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            • noite_etion@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

              Waiting for the ISO 8601 & 9001 gang to show up and promote YYYY-MM-DD.

              Edit: That took seconds, a very punctual bunch.

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              ISO 8601/RFC-3339 (Unix Epoch also acceptable) gang reporting in.

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                As a big ISO 8601 guy myself, I request explanation of this 9001 addition? Never heard of it till now and am optimistic

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                Seconded. Not coming up with much when trying to find out more about it.

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                • S [email protected]

                  MM/DD/YY for me.

                  Edit: I learned something new today.

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                  Upvoted, because never blame someone who learned something new.

                  YYYY-MM-DD is for Files

                  DD.MM.YYYY is for writing a date down.

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                    Let's not forget that technically you have to pay for ISO8601, despite it being nearly useless as a standard because it allows several incompatible formats to coexist.

                    Fucking wild.

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                    While a fucking stupid concept, it's nice that this particular format has a monetary deterrent.

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                      I'm the only one annoyed about DD/MM/YYYY not being a date, but a date "format"?

                      Not only it's a recycled joke, it doesn't even make sense.

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                        As a big ISO 8601 guy myself, I request explanation of this 9001 addition? Never heard of it till now and am optimistic

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                        Quality Management Systems, unsure what it has to do with 8601, but guess the fanboy venn diagram overlaps

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                        • K [email protected]

                          RFC 3339 if you please. Let's be prescriptive.

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                          Anyone help enlighten me about whatever this and unix epoch are getting at?
                          Are these really more specific/better than iso 8601 and why specifically?

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                            For computing or sorting purposes, YYYY-MM-DD is best. But in day to day writing a date, I prefer DD-MON-YYYY.

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                            What if the day in question isn't a Monday?

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                              Perfect date: We stay in bed snuggling while watching furry movies, meme compilations, or playing video games.

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                              • beigeagenda@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                                I prefer the alphabetical date format DD-HH-MM-SS-mm-yy for maximum confusion

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                                Were you mostly joking or is there a utility to this? Genuinely curious as someone that finds confusing things slightly more memorable in a really backwards way

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                                  This fucknuts who thinks day should come before year, hah!
                                  Give me YYYY-MM-DD, because dashes are better than slashes any day of the week.

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                                  This format is the best. Especially for digital file names, because sorting the files by filename also sorts them by date.

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                                    This format is the best. Especially for digital file names, because sorting the files by filename also sorts them by date.

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                                    A true professional. Have an upvote.

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                                      Were you mostly joking or is there a utility to this? Genuinely curious as someone that finds confusing things slightly more memorable in a really backwards way

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                                      Yes I was joking, get a random timestamp in this format and you have no idea what it's referring to.

                                      DD:HH:MM:SS:mm:yy is even better because it could be a MAC address.

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                                        Immediate red flag, we all know that YYYY/MM/DD is the only acceptable perfect date

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          Anyone help enlighten me about whatever this and unix epoch are getting at?
                                          Are these really more specific/better than iso 8601 and why specifically?

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                                          Happily!

                                          So, first epoch time. It's a pretty robust standard, covers many use cases, has few edge cases... but it's specifically for machine usage, since it's not human readable and it's not reversible into the past (pre-1970).

                                          ISO 8601 (depending on the annum), by the text of the documentation, these are all valid dates:

                                          • 2007-04-05T14:30
                                          • 2007-04-05T12:30−02:00
                                          • 2007-04-05T14:30Z
                                          • 200704051430
                                          • 07-04-05T14:30
                                          • 2007-95T14:30

                                          Etc.

                                          RFC 3339 (& RFC 9557, it's newest modification) is actually a subset of ISO 8601 and is far more prescriptive. For example you must have a timezone designator. You must have a separator between the date and time. You must use a dash between date elements and a colon between time elements. You can easily add standardized subseconds.

                                          • 2007-04-05T12:30−02:00
                                          • 2007-04-05 14:30Z

                                          This means that RFC 3339 is much easier to parse and use by both machines and humans.

                                          This page (reddit, I know...) has a great summary, and so in the interest of knowledge and attribution I'll link it: https://www.reddit.com/r/ISO8601/comments/p572xy/rfc_3339_versus_iso_8601/

                                          This website allows you to more directly compare the two interactively.
                                          https://ijmacd.github.io/rfc3339-iso8601/

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