Billionaire Sunjay Kapur has died after swallowing a bee at a polo match
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Yellow jackets are wasps, not bees.
Where did I say yellowjackets were bees?
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Where did I say yellowjackets were bees?
The conversation is literally around bees and how many times they can sting you before they die, and you bring up yellow jackets. If you knew they weren’t bees why did you bring them up?
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You are right if it's a honey bee. There are many other species of bees that do have males with stingers. For example many solitary bees (live alone rather than in a hive) have stingers though aren't known to sting people unless swallowed like in the OP.
The British isles have over 200 species of solitary bees so it's very possible the bee hero in question here was a male
Didn't even think it about it not being a honey a bee. You're right.
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The question I ask myself is: You have that much money,you have a private jet on standby, a large security detail.
And none fucking thought about getting competent medical team or at least a fucking competent paramedic?
I mean....I am generally unsympathetic amongst almost all billionaires, but as someone who has literally done VIP escorts as a critical care paramedic I wonder who fucked up that much.(But these were all "old wealth" and actually were not billionaires. And tbh they treated us with more respect than most members of the public do-that gives them at least some plus point)It's not like Airway obstruction nor anaphylaxis is untreatable/isn't absolutely manageable if caught early.
Anyway, can we please get a fundraiser for the poor queen of that bee?
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The question I ask myself is: You have that much money,you have a private jet on standby, a large security detail.
And none fucking thought about getting competent medical team or at least a fucking competent paramedic?
I mean....I am generally unsympathetic amongst almost all billionaires, but as someone who has literally done VIP escorts as a critical care paramedic I wonder who fucked up that much.(But these were all "old wealth" and actually were not billionaires. And tbh they treated us with more respect than most members of the public do-that gives them at least some plus point)It's not like Airway obstruction nor anaphylaxis is untreatable/isn't absolutely manageable if caught early.
Anyway, can we please get a fundraiser for the poor queen of that bee?
Any med school student should know how to macguyver an airway in an emergency. They literally teach it in civilian lifesaving classes these days. My guess is this guy was such an asshole, his entire medical staff was like "bruh I am not making the hole, you do it."
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The conversation is literally around bees and how many times they can sting you before they die, and you bring up yellow jackets. If you knew they weren’t bees why did you bring them up?
They are both part of the hymenoptera order. They are not the same, but they are related evolutionarily and thus can still be relevant to discussion about bees.
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Any med school student should know how to macguyver an airway in an emergency. They literally teach it in civilian lifesaving classes these days. My guess is this guy was such an asshole, his entire medical staff was like "bruh I am not making the hole, you do it."
I don't know which med school or civilian lifesaving courses you attend - but emergency cricothyrotomy surely isn't a skill that is taught and mastered by any of these I teach.
Cric is a delicate skill that needs repetition and knowledge - it's far from easy and not even close to what is shown in some bad TV shows.
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One down, 11 to go
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One down, 11 to go
Why only 11?
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I don't know which med school or civilian lifesaving courses you attend - but emergency cricothyrotomy surely isn't a skill that is taught and mastered by any of these I teach.
Cric is a delicate skill that needs repetition and knowledge - it's far from easy and not even close to what is shown in some bad TV shows.
iirc Epi-pen is the usual treatment, and those things are pretty easy to obtain.
I think that OP philpo is on to something, that the medical staff was a bit slow to deal with the situation.
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Why only 11?
Apparently there's thousands of billionaires. Which completely baffles. Just one of them could make sure kids never had to go hungry ever again.
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Apparently there's thousands of billionaires. Which completely baffles. Just one of them could make sure kids never had to go hungry ever again.
Kids don't go hungry because of money, they go hungry because of politics. Famines are the product of conflict, especially war. And hunger in countries that are not at war is a product of social inequality. Sure a billionaire could help but that's just a temp fix.
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Kids don't go hungry because of money, they go hungry because of politics. Famines are the product of conflict, especially war. And hunger in countries that are not at war is a product of social inequality. Sure a billionaire could help but that's just a temp fix.
My [sister/brother/other] in [insert deity] have you forgotten that in almost every place on the globe food is purchased with money? And that money is also how you buy politicians? One billionaire absolutely could solve hunger through a combination of direct donation and political spending.
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Idk, I've never been stung by a bee. I might be deathly allergic, but I have no idea.
How have you never been stung by a bee? I’m genuinely asking.
I’ve been stung like a dozen times.
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iirc Epi-pen is the usual treatment, and those things are pretty easy to obtain.
I think that OP philpo is on to something, that the medical staff was a bit slow to deal with the situation.
Honestly, I think it was ignorance and/or hubris. He was either unaware of his allergy (miraculously never stung before, or developed allergy later in life), or he was kind of aware, but never assumed anything could go wrong.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -- Hanlon's Razor.
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iirc Epi-pen is the usual treatment, and those things are pretty easy to obtain.
I think that OP philpo is on to something, that the medical staff was a bit slow to deal with the situation.
With anaphylactic shock, the timeline could be literally seconds. He could be dead before they even figure out what's wrong.
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Didn't even think it about it not being a honey a bee. You're right.
I just learned about solitary bees a few years ago. For some reason it has never cross my mind until I was researching these unusual blue bees in my garden which turned out to bee Blue Banded Bee which is awesome:
https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/blue-banded-bee-flight-karthikphotography/27046849
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Sic semper apiaster
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My [sister/brother/other] in [insert deity] have you forgotten that in almost every place on the globe food is purchased with money? And that money is also how you buy politicians? One billionaire absolutely could solve hunger through a combination of direct donation and political spending.
While money is used to by goods and services, it isn't those goods and services. It's essentially a measure of resource allocation. More money means you get more resources.
People don't go hungry due to lack of money, they go hungry due to lack of food. In an area undergoing famine, you can give people money and they'll buy food. This means people who were eating before are now going hungry. If you keep giving out money, the price of food starts to rise. Keep going, and eventually it's cheaper to leave the country than it is to buy food.
The systemic causes of hunger are complex. The complexity is sufficient that fixing them would take more money than any billionaire has.
In the US for example, we keep production high and costs low by subsidizing agriculture to the tune of $30-60 billion a year. We give individuals about $115 billion a year in money to buy food. Another $3 billion for emergency food aid. Another $25 billion for lunch for school children. Then there's intangibles, like a side effect of food subsidies being the government owning millions of tons of milk, cheese and produce that it just gives to people. Not cheap, but difficult to quantify exactly.
This all has side effects and weird consequences. Like agricultural subsidies driving down costs of grain for the entire world, making it unprofitable to be a farmer in areas with borderline arable land and causing communities to depend on imports for food, making global food market fluctuations another source of famine risk. There's also some obesity and other health impacts, as well as things like improved academic performance, but those aren't relevant to this.To actually solve the issue, you need to invest in agricultural development. The US government spends another $200 billion a year on this. Basically, instead of just buying food or paying people to grow it, you need to invest in the tools to do so, and to manage pests and everything. Roads, water, tractors, bulldozers, powerplants, education, and all the things that support those things.
All told, the US government spends about $500 billion a year on this, and it's given us a consistently high ranking in food security indexes, with food being generally affordable and safe, and slightly less available, depending on the economy. All that, and only about 50 million people are in food insecure positions in the country.
This is before we get to the costs of doing foreign food aid.
There are billions of food insecure people on earth, and 700 million hungry.Elon musk liquidating all his assets at face value couldn't cover the bill for one year in the country that needs the least assistance.
That being said, while they can't solve it they're certainly part of the cause. The systemic failures that have led to hunger are embodied in them. If we decided to not allow billionaires to exist, we'd be making changes to society that would actually allow us to make those expensive and overwhelming changes to solve the problems above.
One person doesn't have the resources to build roads and infrastructure needed to build the infrastructure needed to support modern farming in areas that can only scrape by, teach people the new methods needed, teach the people needed to support those people, and all of that again for getting the food to the people who need it. But if society decided people like that shouldn't exist, the resources spent so that some portion of the resources end up in their pocket would be enough to do that. -
The question I ask myself is: You have that much money,you have a private jet on standby, a large security detail.
And none fucking thought about getting competent medical team or at least a fucking competent paramedic?
I mean....I am generally unsympathetic amongst almost all billionaires, but as someone who has literally done VIP escorts as a critical care paramedic I wonder who fucked up that much.(But these were all "old wealth" and actually were not billionaires. And tbh they treated us with more respect than most members of the public do-that gives them at least some plus point)It's not like Airway obstruction nor anaphylaxis is untreatable/isn't absolutely manageable if caught early.
Anyway, can we please get a fundraiser for the poor queen of that bee?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Anyway, can we please get a fundraiser for the poor queen of that bee?
It's on the front page of GoFundBee!
