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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

    It's really not. I just checked. At least not in the online version.

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    It was the first thing on their website for a bit but the Minnesota assassination took over shortly afterwards. For the rest of the day it was still on the homepage. But looks like it has fallen off a couple days after.

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    • fiona@lemmy.blahaj.zoneF [email protected]

      That’s by the way why “third reich” is a really bad way to call it: Either call it “drittes Reich” (German) or “third Empire” (English), but mixing the two is just stupid.

      If I had to guess this half-way nonsense is probably a result of the English not wanting to be associated with it, giving they kept talking about the “British empire“…

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      but mixing the two is just stupid.

      I know, it just doesn't feel reich.

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        Don't cut yourself on all that edge

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        Its quite shocking how unpopular antiimperialism is on lemmy. But then again, this is world.

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          WSJ reported "tens of thousands" attending trumps parade which was the most honest thing I've seen from major papers. then next sentence was "hundreds of thousands" attending the no kings protests. While that is technically true, it misrepresenta the 5 million who protested across the country and felt like a concession to not make trump's birthday parade look as bad.

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          The WSJ is part of the problem.

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            Peaceful protests work because they get you out and you meet like-minded people and act together as a community.

            It you go out there hoping for instant change, then you're missing the point. You need to talk to people, exchange contacts, schedule more get-togethers, look to talk with your local government as a group, amass enough votes to get someone among you as a representative or their staff.

            Do this in enough cities that the protests took place and then it's done.

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            Yes, exactly. Protests are an outreach and organizing tool, not something that by itself causes change.

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            • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

              Its quite shocking how unpopular antiimperialism is on lemmy. But then again, this is world.

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              It's quite shocking how people ignore imperalism of the east. Neither is acceptable.

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                https://omfg.town/@dansinker/114690663638438881

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                The nyt covered it with tons of pictures on the day it happened. But I guess it's not good enough unless they do it exactly how and when you want.

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                • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

                  Okay, now do it every weekend until something changes. That's why protests are successful in places like France, because they repeat until it's no longer possible to ignore.

                  Edit: Cleaned up that last line.

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                  Protests are successful in places like France because they carry with them the implicit threat that the elites will sonner or later have their heads separated from their shoulders if they don't address the concerns of the rest of the population.

                  Meanwhile in the US there is not even the risk of the economic damage of a General Strike, much less of the physical integrity of those who actually control how the country is managed.

                  Several million Americans walking around in their own time holding boards decrying the current puppet of the elites ain't going to scare the elites into letting go of some of their power.

                  The murder by a single individual of a Healthcare Insurance company CEO had more concrete impact than this march of millions of Americans ever will.

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                  • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

                    They're all state controlled. I cant tell you often enough.

                    Capitalism is not a free system. The media only says what it is supposed to say. That has been proven countless times.

                    The reason why some mainstream media posts "critical" articles is to make the ruse believable.

                    Please read anti imperialist sources and be prepared to have the crudest awakening possible.

                    What we in the west call "propaganda" by eastern states is mostly true and our understanding of "history* is mostly false. We are the baddies.

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                    State controlled? No. Corporate controlled. The same corporate interests that control the state.

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                      WSJ reported "tens of thousands" attending trumps parade which was the most honest thing I've seen from major papers. then next sentence was "hundreds of thousands" attending the no kings protests. While that is technically true, it misrepresenta the 5 million who protested across the country and felt like a concession to not make trump's birthday parade look as bad.

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                      by tens of thousands attending trump parade, they mean that out if thousand of people, only tens attended

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                        Protests are successful in places like France because they carry with them the implicit threat that the elites will sonner or later have their heads separated from their shoulders if they don't address the concerns of the rest of the population.

                        Meanwhile in the US there is not even the risk of the economic damage of a General Strike, much less of the physical integrity of those who actually control how the country is managed.

                        Several million Americans walking around in their own time holding boards decrying the current puppet of the elites ain't going to scare the elites into letting go of some of their power.

                        The murder by a single individual of a Healthcare Insurance company CEO had more concrete impact than this march of millions of Americans ever will.

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                        They also work in France because all of those people can very reasonably gather in one place, which isn't feasible for the US

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                          State controlled? No. Corporate controlled. The same corporate interests that control the state.

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                          Well, yes. I dont distinguish between them in capitalism because the dont have diverging interests long term.

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                            It's quite shocking how people ignore imperalism of the east. Neither is acceptable.

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                            You didnt need to prove my point that fast but okay. Thanks i guess.

                            Did your country print you the "certified centrist" barcode in your neck yet? 😄

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                              They also work in France because all of those people can very reasonably gather in one place, which isn't feasible for the US

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                              Good news! You don't have to all gather in one location!

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                                Almost like peaceful protests can be ignored by capital owners or politicians.

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                                3.5%

                                https://generalstrikeus.com/

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                                  https://omfg.town/@dansinker/114690663638438881

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                                  It has to continue and be sustained. It's less likely getting everyone to participate in a general strike, but if 10% of the people in the US walked out of their job to protest in the street...? I guarantee there would be immediate change.

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                                    The revolution will not be televised

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                                    • N [email protected]

                                      WSJ reported "tens of thousands" attending trumps parade which was the most honest thing I've seen from major papers. then next sentence was "hundreds of thousands" attending the no kings protests. While that is technically true, it misrepresenta the 5 million who protested across the country and felt like a concession to not make trump's birthday parade look as bad.

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                                      I also saw the AP say there were "dozens" of No Kings protests. According to the No Kings site, they had protests in 1,500 cities.

                                      Could you imagine if you asked you spouse to pick up a dozen eggs and they came back with 1,500 instead?

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                                      • jballs@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                                        I also saw the AP say there were "dozens" of No Kings protests. According to the No Kings site, they had protests in 1,500 cities.

                                        Could you imagine if you asked you spouse to pick up a dozen eggs and they came back with 1,500 instead?

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                                        "they had bread."

                                        (I know I'm butchering the joke, please bear with me)

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                                        • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

                                          Okay, now do it every weekend until something changes. That's why protests are successful in places like France, because they repeat until it's no longer possible to ignore.

                                          Edit: Cleaned up that last line.

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                                          They also blockade the ports and spay manure at government buildings in France.

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