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  • S [email protected]

    There is absolutely no proof that these people are ICE, or any other agents of the state. Do not assume masked strangers throwing people in vehicles are law enforcement. Especially if they don't identify themselves.

    We all need to stop making this assumption, and to start encouraging others to also not make this assumption.

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    I get what you mean. But, materially, there is not much of a difference. You should absolutely do everything in your power to stop or resist them.

    They are Nazis with a badge or Nazis without a badge. That badge doesn't change what should be done to them by anyone that sees them. They should not feel safe getting out of their van. There are more of us. Get organized and be ready to be that 2nd or 3rd or 4th random stranger that is brave enough to standup to them.

    Nazi's aren't brave. They are wimpy little losers. That's why they are Nazis. Don't let them feel safe anywhere they go.

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      how does no one shoot them

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      • L [email protected]

        My favorite so far is the people who follow these fuckers around with megaphones and broadcast the rights people have when dealing with ICE, numbers of local lawyers and advocates, and other instructions to help people either avoid the interaction or at least have a fighting chance to due process if they are detained.

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        Absolutely. They should be afraid to get out of their van. They should be treated as if they are wearing a Nazi uniform.

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          What would be better is if, when people were being kidnapped by these brownshirts-at-home, the bystanders started beating these kidnappers to a bloody, gelatinous pulp. That way, the street sweepers could come and gently push their mouldering viscera where they belong: the gutter.

          Remember: there is no evidence that these people have the force of law behind them. Citizens should not allow others to be kidnapped in broad daylight.

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          Absolutely. Numbers have power too. If you happen to be around when this happens do not let the eyes of those around you turn the other way.

          Everyone is waiting for someone to say something. But no one has said anything so we all think "well, I guess I don't know the whole story because no one ELSE is doing anything". It's quite a well documented human group behavior.

          You need to be that first voice. You need to shake everyone else out of that thought. Because you know exactly what it is. It's scary to be that first or second person to speak up.

          But another well documented human behavior is that when someone goes to help, others join in, they get shaken out of their "freeze" and decide to fight.

          Our society isn't broken enough yet for people not to care when someone is being kidnapped. They just need you to call it what it is.

          Just keep calling "ICE" liars. If they try to say they are federal agents just keep saying they are lying. Do everything to delay until you have enough support to make them feel afraid. Again, they are Nazis. They are not brave. They are scared little losers. Don't let them feel safe to get out of their black vans.

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            Not even remotely hyperbolic here, I 100% would assume they’re randos gang members or doing criminality attempting to kidnap then murder me, and I’d fight back accordingly. Not even a badge on a neck chain or belt clip jfc covered head to toe

            Just the same as if a mugging becomes “get into the van” no you fucking shouldn’t because their goals are now no longer your property, but now your life

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            This is what random crimes taking place look like in Spiderman

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              Just being honest. If someone in mask comes to my car, I'm pulling away. If you are caught by a wheel, then it's on you. Identify who you are.

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                Wait, that's how they're actually dressed? They just look like random people. The fact that they don't get shot more speaks a lot about how well behaved the people they are kidnapping are.

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                  Call 911

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                    *Allegedly ICE

                    Those could totally just be plain old kidnappers

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                    Yeah, that's what "ICE" is.

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                      Fucking fascists

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                        Masked, no badge. That's a good way to get yourself shot.

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                        Hopefully.

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                        • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zoneU [email protected]

                          There are some pepper sprays that are mixed with red difficult-to-remove dye for the purpose of identifying those involved in an incident.

                          Legal in California!

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                          Oo gimme link. I want

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                          • O [email protected]

                            Or four.

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                            Rule #2. Double tap.

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                              Just being honest. If someone in mask comes to my car, I'm pulling away. If you are caught by a wheel, then it's on you. Identify who you are.

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                              They wouldn't hide their face if what they were doing wasn't shameful

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                                These guys look like they're about to rob a bank.

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                                  Fucking cowards

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                                    These are criminals. There's nothing to indicate that they are any type of law enforcement.

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                                      can't wait for them to be gunned down in self defense.

                                      it will be so strange, they will be gunned down in the middle of a busy street with countless passerbys, but somehow there will be no witnesses

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        Uncanny how the collectivist's mental dissonance shows through the cracks:

                                        Cops are pigs

                                        And they all should be dead

                                        And all of them are bad

                                        Unless I need them

                                        To protect me from the state

                                        The one I wish to give more and more power everytime over me

                                        Lol

                                        Lmao even

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                                        How dare people demand the police do their fucking job, right?

                                        Fuck you.

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                                          how does no one shoot them

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                                          ironically, a proper self defence reaction to a gang of masked armed thugs who try to kidnap minorities.

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