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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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  • B [email protected]

    I don't agree with Israel at all. But Iran is a theocratic ethnostate as well. One that has pretty loudly proclaimed that the day they have nuclear weapons is the day before they use one on Israel. There's nobody out there who's in a morally high position.

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    Theocracy maybe, but I definitely wouldn't consider Iran an ethnostate

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      Theocracy maybe, but I definitely wouldn't consider Iran an ethnostate

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      Theocracy yes, almost as badly as the zionists. Ethnostate no. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, hazbarite.

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        It sounds nearly identical to the program Time said Palantir was using in Israel in December 2024 to help track Hamas

        “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity.

        Except if they just come right out and say that, it becomes more difficult to deny the U.S. is already directly involved. Especially since they just gave members of Palantir positions in the U.S. military

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        No one cares about whether or not they use a dashboard to track signals intelligence data. The interesting part of this story is the unpublished assassination weapon, not how they selected targets.

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        • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

          The argument being cluster bombs are a dirty move, but using simultaneous AI powered assassin drones to strike while people are sleeping makes you the good guys?

          I mean... That is how this works. Cluster bombs are bad because they're less precise and cause more collateral damage. So weapons that target individuals with high precision are better

          But like... Presumably, you're not just individually killing a bunch of civilians precisely

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          But like... Presumably, you're not just individually killing a bunch of civilians precisely

          No, they're not precise at all unless you consider also killing their families and potentially an entire building full of people to be acceptable "precision."

          That's why it seems like bullshit to pretend lower tech cluster bombs are an inexcusable evil compared to Palantir AI drones.

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          • B [email protected]

            I don't agree with Israel at all. But Iran is a theocratic ethnostate as well. One that has pretty loudly proclaimed that the day they have nuclear weapons is the day before they use one on Israel. There's nobody out there who's in a morally high position.

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            No Iran definitely has the moral high ground, by a fair margin. Israel has been committing a genocide, as well as running a full on apartheid ethnostate, if you didn't know. But even if we ignore that, the IAEA as wel as the American intelligence community (think NSA, CIA and so on) have both assessed, as recently as a week ago, that Iran has not attempted to build nuclear weapons since 2003. Iran is being bombed, illegally, based on a lie. That's high ground enough for me.

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            • B [email protected]

              death sentences were not all executed.
              In line with my comment.
              But OK, they executed ELEVEN people.
              Even 40 would be ridiculous.

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              Please understand that I'm not some liberal, and I'm open to your perspective. I'm not being argumentative, I'm just asking for a source. I'm interested in finding out more about the Nuremberg trials, and typically google suggests libbed up shit, so I'm asking you specifically to help me out.

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              • P [email protected]

                Looked it up because I wanted to be sure...

                https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/netanyahu-knew-of-qatari-money-flowing-to-hamas-before-oct-7/ar-AA1BEa1k

                Here's Netanyahu passing the buck:

                https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahus-office-admits-pms-staff-got-didnt-pass-on-alert-hours-before-oct-7-attack/

                At the very least, the information was out there and either he knew it and allowed it to happen (maybe wasn't aware it would be that successful), or was grossly incompetent and derelict in his duties.

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                So Netanyahu let close to 1200 Israelis die of which 736 were civilians? Are any Israelis condemning him for that?

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                  The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

                  The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

                  The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

                  The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

                  Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

                  Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

                  Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

                  How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

                  A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

                  Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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                  #147

                  the most dangerous profession in the world has gotta be iranian nuclear scientist.

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                  • T [email protected]

                    Have you never heard of zionism? This has been the plan for over a century.

                    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
                    • https://mepei.com/greater-israel-an-ongoing-expansion-plan-for-the-middle-east-and-north-africa/
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                    Yeah it's not that Israel is planning this, it's that this is the plan of Israel the whole thing is this plan.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      o no! israel thwarted iran's nuclear ambitions! the horror!!!

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                      I'm sure you still think it was a great thing we got to iraq before they set off those wmd's

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                      • S [email protected]

                        Why does anyone get to have nuclear weapons?

                        Because once you have them, who's going to try to take them away?

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                        In 1994, Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia.

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                        • P [email protected]
                          1. what a stupid fucking name
                          2. why does Israel get to have nuclear weapons
                          3. why does no one ask question 2
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                          1. Why is it ok for them to assassinate civilians?
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                          • B [email protected]

                            I don't agree with Israel at all. But Iran is a theocratic ethnostate as well. One that has pretty loudly proclaimed that the day they have nuclear weapons is the day before they use one on Israel. There's nobody out there who's in a morally high position.

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                            If I learned anything from the 2024 election it’s that we must unequivocally support the lesser evil. Since Israel attacked first (and is actively committing genocide), that means Iran is the lesser evil and therefore they are perfect and not supporting them means you support genocide. /s

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                              In 1994, Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia.

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                              A huge mistake, apparently

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                              • A [email protected]

                                But like... Presumably, you're not just individually killing a bunch of civilians precisely

                                No, they're not precise at all unless you consider also killing their families and potentially an entire building full of people to be acceptable "precision."

                                That's why it seems like bullshit to pretend lower tech cluster bombs are an inexcusable evil compared to Palantir AI drones.

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                                They are more precise than cluster bombs.

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                                  The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

                                  The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

                                  The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

                                  The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

                                  Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

                                  Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

                                  Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

                                  How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

                                  A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

                                  Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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                                  I guess this is what they meant by they had something planned whether the US bombed Fordow or not

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    So Netanyahu let close to 1200 Israelis die of which 736 were civilians? Are any Israelis condemning him for that?

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                                    There is also the Hannibal directive that was used against Civilians that die.

                                    Israel killed a non disclosed number of its own Civilians to prevent them being taken hostage.
                                    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/israel-hannibal-directive-kidnap-hamas-gaza-hostages-idf/104224430

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                                    • O [email protected]

                                      Theocracy yes, almost as badly as the zionists. Ethnostate no. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, hazbarite.

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                                      When was the last time Iran invaded land to settle it with its own people?

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                                      • darkassassin07@lemmy.caD [email protected]

                                        The thing is, until someone actually faces any consequences in modern times for atrocities such as these; simply saying how bad they are has become meaningless.

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                                        It isn't meaningless.

                                        It is not enough in itself and being like "well i said it, now all is done from my side" is problematic.

                                        Still it is important to call it out as a mean to pressure those with direct power to enact consequences to do so.

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                                          When was the last time Iran invaded land to settle it with its own people?

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                                          Yes, because iran is as bad in one single way as the zionists, they're also as bad in all the other ways.

                                          Like how im a really shitty painter, so therefore im exactly as bad as hitler in everything.

                                          Im glad you understood precisely what i was saying there. Really helps my faith in humanity.

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