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Sony faces another class-action lawsuit over PlayStation Store prices and monopolistic practices

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      It's claimed that in addition to exploiting its dominant position, Sony bans other potential app stores from having access to the PlayStation platform.

      It would be fascinating if this lawsuit forces Sony to open their platform to 3rd party stores. I am assuming they would be far more opposed to this than even any multi-hundred million euro fines.

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        I wish it covered how they went from selling cards giving time for PS+, to requiring mismatched currency cards for PS+.

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          It's claimed that in addition to exploiting its dominant position, Sony bans other potential app stores from having access to the PlayStation platform.

          It would be fascinating if this lawsuit forces Sony to open their platform to 3rd party stores. I am assuming they would be far more opposed to this than even any multi-hundred million euro fines.

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          Yeah, absolutely. Companies like Sony, Microsoft and especially Apple would rather pay huge monthly fines than opening up their platforms.

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            Yeah, absolutely. Companies like Sony, Microsoft and especially Apple would rather pay huge monthly fines than opening up their platforms.

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            The "huge fines" aren't huge enough if they can continue to be fined and still make a profit.

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              I thought recent rulings talked about Consoles as a special class that was exempt from being forced to have third party stores. Was this EU only? I found it notable, because I think if iOS is forced to have third party app stores, consoles should be too.

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                Yeah, absolutely. Companies like Sony, Microsoft and especially Apple would rather pay huge monthly fines than opening up their platforms.

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                Microsoft is going in that direction now, thankfully.

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                  I thought recent rulings talked about Consoles as a special class that was exempt from being forced to have third party stores. Was this EU only? I found it notable, because I think if iOS is forced to have third party app stores, consoles should be too.

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                  I don’t have explicitly what you’re looking for as I am not a lawyer, but game consoles aren’t a general-purpose computing device (despite theoretically capable of being one if appropriately jailbroken), and as such, prior case law for PC doesn’t apply.

                  iOS/Android tend to be classified a general-purpose computing device because it does all the same things a PC does (or did) and more. It plays games and does banking and plays music and browses the web and displays pictures and movies, etc etc. For some, it’s their primary and only computing device.

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                    It's claimed that in addition to exploiting its dominant position, Sony bans other potential app stores from having access to the PlayStation platform.

                    It would be fascinating if this lawsuit forces Sony to open their platform to 3rd party stores. I am assuming they would be far more opposed to this than even any multi-hundred million euro fines.

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                    To be honest that would just be the end of the consoles system as there is a reason Sony is selling the PS5 for so cheap.

                    As much as I understand why Apple shouldn’t be allowed to keep everything in the Apple Store, Sony’s situation isn’t the same.

                    But what would bother me more is if Sony starts to raise the prices of everything without justification.

                    I got a Steam Deck and I’m slowly migrating my gaming from Playstation only to Linux/Playstation gaming. Still a Playstation 5 is a great product, especially with kids and its ease of use and great graphics for your bucks.

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                      The "huge fines" aren't huge enough if they can continue to be fined and still make a profit.

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                      Their accountants factor it in as a expense

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                        To be honest that would just be the end of the consoles system as there is a reason Sony is selling the PS5 for so cheap.

                        As much as I understand why Apple shouldn’t be allowed to keep everything in the Apple Store, Sony’s situation isn’t the same.

                        But what would bother me more is if Sony starts to raise the prices of everything without justification.

                        I got a Steam Deck and I’m slowly migrating my gaming from Playstation only to Linux/Playstation gaming. Still a Playstation 5 is a great product, especially with kids and its ease of use and great graphics for your bucks.

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                        We sold our PS and now have a gaming PC hooked up to the TV.

                        Been a few teething issues with convenience issues like being able to turn it on from the couch, but the experience has gotten pretty smooth now.

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                          To be honest that would just be the end of the consoles system as there is a reason Sony is selling the PS5 for so cheap.

                          As much as I understand why Apple shouldn’t be allowed to keep everything in the Apple Store, Sony’s situation isn’t the same.

                          But what would bother me more is if Sony starts to raise the prices of everything without justification.

                          I got a Steam Deck and I’m slowly migrating my gaming from Playstation only to Linux/Playstation gaming. Still a Playstation 5 is a great product, especially with kids and its ease of use and great graphics for your bucks.

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                          No PC that isn’t a lower spec handheld can pick up and play like a console, and even that list is very short. Consoles are also, at least for a few years, the far more economical decision when it comes or acquiring the base hardware. It’s maybe changed now since we’re over halfway through this cycle but I’d challenge anyone here to match a digital PS4 for $400 USD with a PC. It’s a tall order.

                          I am now a strictly PC gamer. It’s better for most things. But consoles still make sense to a lot of people. No fuss, in your games fast, simple experience, plug into your tv and go with the controller they gave you.

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                            To be honest that would just be the end of the consoles system as there is a reason Sony is selling the PS5 for so cheap.

                            As much as I understand why Apple shouldn’t be allowed to keep everything in the Apple Store, Sony’s situation isn’t the same.

                            But what would bother me more is if Sony starts to raise the prices of everything without justification.

                            I got a Steam Deck and I’m slowly migrating my gaming from Playstation only to Linux/Playstation gaming. Still a Playstation 5 is a great product, especially with kids and its ease of use and great graphics for your bucks.

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                            To be honest that would just be the end of the consoles system as there is a reason Sony is selling the PS5 for so cheap.

                            They stopped selling them for cheap as soon as they reached market dominance, so good riddance I say.

                            I'm also not sure how much the PS exerience differs from Xbox, but my last console was an XOne (got it for cheap) specifically because I wanted the "no fuss" experience, and it was such a headache that it convinced me to switch to PC instead.

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                              I wish it covered how they went from selling cards giving time for PS+, to requiring mismatched currency cards for PS+.

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                              Wait what? I'm mostly steam now so I'm out of the loop. What the fuck.....?

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                                I was a PS gamer since the PS1. Thousands of hours spent over decades.

                                I switched to PC (linux) late last year and my PS Plus membership lapsed in April of this year. I won't be back.

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                                  I like to read the comments left by people/"people" on these types of websites, and all those comments were basically saying that this is a little overstepping since "there is plenty of competition" i.e. Xbox and Nintendo.

                                  One of them even said something about "imagine DRM on like your tractor" or something like that, and boy howdy do I wish I didn't have to create an account to comment back, "Like John Deere...?"

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