The Switch 2's super sluggish LCD screen is 10 times slower than a typical gaming monitor and 100 times slower than an OLED panel according to independent testing
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Exactly!!!! Like they’re just making up shit—the screen is fucking fine! Like what do they fucking WANT?!
For a couple hundred extra, I wouldn't expect anything in the Switch 2 to be worse than the Switch 1, personally.
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How does it compare to other handhelds, though? Slower than the original Switch is bad, but if these smaller panels are less responsive in general then I'm not sure I care if they compare poorly to larger PC monitor panels. I am not buying a handheld to compete directly with my PC.
Apparently it is slower, but to me it just looks and feels better than the screen on my OLED Switch
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It only costs 500 bucks. And as my friend says, "you're not going to get 4k gaming for a dollar less, let's be honest." So they had to cut back somewhere, apparently.
LCD screen is 1080p...
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LCD screen is 1080p...
Dude, I dunno. I'm not a Nintendo apologist. I think the price, and their policies are completely insane.
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Equating "children and video games" is such a boomer take. Reducing it like that is basically saying "let the toddlers have fun with their Nintendos!" It's literally condescending to everyone and comes across as out-of-touch.
Nintendo does skew towards a younger audience though. Price and exlusive titles alone are much more compatible with a younger audience than e.g. the Steam Deck.
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That doesn't bode well for a high refresh rate screen
Edit - 120hz is only in docked mode and with a compatible 120hz screen, although the screen also supports 120hz at 1080p. I bet that will feel incredibly different than handheld mode per the article's quoted refresh rates of the actual screen.
120hz vs 30 is a massive difference in terms of perceived fluidity.
I don't have a switch. From what I gather, the dock is just an USB C to HDMI dongle with extra USB ports, correct?
Does docked mode performance also trigger when an USB charging cable is plugged in? From what I gather the main issue why handheld mode is lower performance is the battery consumption.
If it does, does it then display 1080p@120hz on the integrated screen?
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Sincere question, particularly to PC gamers, when will the bitching stop? Fr? Every single motherfucking day, yalls invent some new reason why the S2 sucks. Can yalls just shut the fucking fuck up and let children enjoy their goddam video games? Grow up.
As soon as you shut up nerd
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For a couple hundred extra, I wouldn't expect anything in the Switch 2 to be worse than the Switch 1, personally.
Its $100 extra, and that's after the artificial COVID inflation. But your point stands.
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Its $100 extra, and that's after the artificial COVID inflation. But your point stands.
Here, a switch is $400, while a Switch 2 is $630.
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Dude, I dunno. I'm not a Nintendo apologist. I think the price, and their policies are completely insane.
In what way? Because i too believe they are insane.
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In what way? Because i too believe they are insane.
Paying for "upgrades" to games someone already owns, the decades of "premium" pricing on everything with no sales, their ongoing war against emulators, modders, etc. One big one for me was when my copy of MySims killed the disc drive in my wii, I RMA'd the system and got back a refurb with the note "yeah, you're gonna have to deal with not having any of your Wii Shop Channel stuff on your own, buddy."
Not a policy, but I'm irked by the weirdly cheap build quality as of late, too. I've got NES, GCN, N64 controllers that still work, and every one of my switch sticks drifts with very little use. Plus the rails on the Switch felt cheap, and the audio quality and input lag are bad.
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Paying for "upgrades" to games someone already owns, the decades of "premium" pricing on everything with no sales, their ongoing war against emulators, modders, etc. One big one for me was when my copy of MySims killed the disc drive in my wii, I RMA'd the system and got back a refurb with the note "yeah, you're gonna have to deal with not having any of your Wii Shop Channel stuff on your own, buddy."
Not a policy, but I'm irked by the weirdly cheap build quality as of late, too. I've got NES, GCN, N64 controllers that still work, and every one of my switch sticks drifts with very little use. Plus the rails on the Switch felt cheap, and the audio quality and input lag are bad.
We are on the same page.
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How does it compare to other handhelds, though? Slower than the original Switch is bad, but if these smaller panels are less responsive in general then I'm not sure I care if they compare poorly to larger PC monitor panels. I am not buying a handheld to compete directly with my PC.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]How does it compare to other handhelds, though
It's a significantly more expensive handheld, but I've found a video with a comparison to the ROG Ally and it makes the Switch 2 screen look really bad.
Source is a page on Facebook so I can't vouch for its veracity, but it matches multiple reports we're seeing from trusted sources that the screen is laggy - besides the ones mentioned in the OP link we also got the Digital Foundry guys saying the same in their review.
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Exactly!!!! Like they’re just making up shit—the screen is fucking fine! Like what do they fucking WANT?!
wrote on last edited by [email protected]More information so people can make proper purchase decisions is always good. The current screen may be fine for most, but there's people who are very sensitive to this type of slow screen and will prefer to wait for a new hardware revision.
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Why not? If they can cut costs by reducing specs that don't matter to their target audience, that just seems like sound engineering.
On release that may be fine, but it will exist for years. My expectation is that it released with a shit screen so they could normalize that price point and then sell a + version in a year for another $150.
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As someone who has recently been playing with the Switch 2 in handheld and docked mode, I have to say I'm surprised about the negativity.
The response time is only very slightly worse compared to playing docked. It's not noticeable at all, even when playing competitive online games.
Playing Switch 2 in handheld is a much better experience compared to playing Switch 1 in handheld. It's a huge improvement.
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Maybe it's just the games I've been playing (mainly Mario Kart and TOTK), but I havent really had any issues with the Switch 2 screen, and I'm usually pretty sensitive to that stuff, at least on PC.
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How does it compare to other handhelds, though? Slower than the original Switch is bad, but if these smaller panels are less responsive in general then I'm not sure I care if they compare poorly to larger PC monitor panels. I am not buying a handheld to compete directly with my PC.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Apologies for the double-post, but this is relevant: Monitors Unboxed posted a comparison video including several handheld devices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFYGv0Pb98
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Apologies for the double-post, but this is relevant: Monitors Unboxed posted a comparison video including several handheld devices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFYGv0Pb98
Useful comparison, thanks for sharing!
