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> The Framework Desktop is powered by an AMD Ryzen AI Max processor, a Radeon 8060S integrated GPU, and between 32GB and 128GB of soldered-in RAM.

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  • N [email protected]

    The hell you mean “not something they could control”? Their whole deal is making upgradeable, repairable devices and ram thats replaceable is no industry secret. Their options should have been make it work or dont make it at all.

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    If you read into it, this was a limitation on AMD’s part, which they tried to resolve. You don’t have to buy it, and the rest of their lineup should meet your expectations.

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      If you read into it, this was a limitation on AMD’s part, which they tried to resolve. You don’t have to buy it, and the rest of their lineup should meet your expectations.

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      You know, they didn't have to make a product with this specific chip. They did it anyway despite it being inherently incompatible with their former goals. And this is not about us customers, this is about Framework abandoning what they stood for and losing credibility in the process.

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        The Framework Desktop is powered by an AMD Ryzen AI Max processor, a Radeon 8060S integrated GPU, and between 32GB and 128GB of soldered-in RAM.

        The CPU and GPU are one piece of silicon, and they're soldered to the motherboard. The RAM is also soldered down and not upgradeable once you've bought it, setting it apart from nearly every other board Framework sells.

        It'd raise an eyebrow if it was a laptop but it's a freakin' desktop. Fuck you framework.

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        insanely hostile response to something like this. they attempted to have these parts replaceable, AMD physically couldn't do it. they've still made it as repairable as possible, and will without a doubt be more repairable than similar devices using this chipset. fucking relax, being reactionary without being informed is dumb.

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        • natanox@discuss.tchncs.deN [email protected]

          You know, they didn't have to make a product with this specific chip. They did it anyway despite it being inherently incompatible with their former goals. And this is not about us customers, this is about Framework abandoning what they stood for and losing credibility in the process.

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          They kind of did. What other chip allows for 128 GB of VRAM or has that kind of iGPU?

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            Well tbh they still do have repairable laptops, even new ones and all that, and the "excuse" is that the only way to properly use that specific AMD CPU is with that specific RAM and the non.soldered bus wasn't enough, but still... i'll stick to old #ThinkPads, thank you.

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            It's not an excuse. Socketed RAM has been a bottleneck for iGPUs for a while now.

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              insanely hostile response to something like this. they attempted to have these parts replaceable, AMD physically couldn't do it. they've still made it as repairable as possible, and will without a doubt be more repairable than similar devices using this chipset. fucking relax, being reactionary without being informed is dumb.

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              We need to stop bending over backwards to lower our standards for the people making money off of us.

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                insanely hostile response to something like this. they attempted to have these parts replaceable, AMD physically couldn't do it. they've still made it as repairable as possible, and will without a doubt be more repairable than similar devices using this chipset. fucking relax, being reactionary without being informed is dumb.

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                will without a doubt be more repairable than similar devices

                It's a desktop, they're repairable unless you solder something in.

                using this chipset

                They could've gone with any other chipset, making the whole thing irrelevant to begin with, but they couldn't please the AI crowd that way.

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                  will without a doubt be more repairable than similar devices

                  It's a desktop, they're repairable unless you solder something in.

                  using this chipset

                  They could've gone with any other chipset, making the whole thing irrelevant to begin with, but they couldn't please the AI crowd that way.

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                  By similar devices I obviously mean ITX PCs with similar chipsets. The average PC isn't giving you 128GB of VRAM for $2k.

                  Local AI is a difficult thing to do right now, making a product to allow people to use AI without giving up their privacy is great.

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                    We need to stop bending over backwards to lower our standards for the people making money off of us.

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                    You need to get a grip. Framework is a private company that has done very well by its customers and supporters so far. Stop being so fucking negative.

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                      You need to get a grip. Framework is a private company that has done very well by its customers and supporters so far. Stop being so fucking negative.

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                      Oof, found the proud consumer.

                      They always get upset when you point out how they're being taken advantage of.

                      They can never willingly take a bad deal, right? 😉

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                        Oof, found the proud consumer.

                        They always get upset when you point out how they're being taken advantage of.

                        They can never willingly take a bad deal, right? 😉

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                        you seriously have issues. and you're a dick on top of that.

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                          you seriously have issues. and you're a dick on top of that.

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                          Wow, calm down.

                          This is how you react when people say we should have higher standards? I guess you really are insecure about your purchasing habits.

                          The consumerism runs deep with you. Now you're going to throw a tantrum trying to find ways to defend being taken for a ride 😎

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                          • randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.comR [email protected]

                            Honestly this is exactly the product I was waiting for minisforum to make. I think this is actually a pretty solid move.

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                            Same, I was ready to just buy the first chinese mini pc that had the 128G strix halo processor. This is way better as it will have actual support and likely be better made.

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