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The world reacts to Trump's sweeping tariffs: 'No basis in logic'

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  • ? Guest

    "No basis in logic"

    No shit, this whole administration has no basis in logic. Just look at Project 2025 and the progress they've made on it in a little over 2 months.

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    Woah, and biden waited until the very end of his term to do something as benign as removing Cuba from the list of state sponsors of terrorism.

    Man, whoever is voting for establishment democrats in primaries is really just helping Republicans at this point.

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    • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

      Summary

      Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

      The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

      Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

      Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

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      Ooh boy, does my retirement account feel liberated.

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        I mean, it's pretty logical.

        He wants to enrich his American buddies, and this is how we do it.

        Instead of competing fairly with foreign businesses, Americans artificially increase the prices of the competition so customers don't have a cheaper option to choose.

        I want to say this country sucks, I really do. But in all honesty, this generation sucks. The greed and consumerism on both sides is what led us to this.

        It's a two-pronged approach where we have the 'lesser-evil' morons working in tandem with the 'greater-evil' scumbags to ensure good never prevails.

        Fuck everyone who voted for hillary clinton and joe biden in their primaries. I put the blame squarely on them for why we have 2 trump presidencies.

        Big reason why I didn't vote this election. Tired of supporting the "lesser-evil" crowd that never supports me for some reason. Loyalty is a one-way street with them.

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        I don't think this is a generational thing, personally, unless we're talking about the Boomers.

        The Boomers took a vibrant, beautiful world and spent two generations driving it into this McDonaldized hellhole we live in, after reaping the benefits of the most prosperous economic period for workers in our history in the 1960's. They're still profiting.

        The vast majority of the country only has one or two choices when shopping for necessities now, so I can't really blame them for the world that they were born into.

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          I think Trump doesn’t want to trade at all. He wants us to produce everything we need.

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          Well, artificially increasing the price of all the raw naturals we use to make those things will certainly help with that goal...

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          • B [email protected]

            Have we forgotten that he has done this each month since he was Inaugurated?

            Today the stock market will crash on this news. The wealthy will buy on this massive dip, and in a few days, HitlerPig will announce that the countries on his list have responded to his tariff threats, so he is postponing them for a month or so.

            The stock market will recover a bit, and the wealthy will make a fortune. In a month, he'll do it all over again.

            It's deliberate market manipulation.

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            I am stealing "HitlerPig"

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            • ? Guest

              You had me right up to "I didn't vote".

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              Because that means you supported Trump, regardless of what you say, your actions helped put him in power.

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                You don't even have to go that far. Just adopt sane copyright laws, like copyright only lasting the life of the artist.

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                Yeah, but think about the grandchildren of the CEO who bought that IP from the artist‽

                Do you want them to starve have to work for a living?

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                • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                  Summary

                  Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

                  The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

                  Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

                  Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

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                  The "Empires last 250 years" thing is bad history and not really supported by fact...but...

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                  • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism

                    End goal.

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                    I would tend to agree with the process part of accelerationism, but I don't think there is a goal.

                    The "crazy like a fox" theory is contradicted by several pretty dumb tells that suggest the administration is headed and staffed by actual idiots.

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                    • ? Guest

                      You had me right up to "I didn't vote".

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                      If you're mad at me for not voting, blame the people who keep nominating establishment candidates.

                      Every ounce of effort you spend trying to convince me to vote for the lesser-evil would be better spent convincing people not to nominate the lesser-evil.

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                      • ibelieveinthehousehippo@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                        I am stealing "HitlerPig"

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                        I've been using it ever since i heard thats what the younger staffers in the Biden White House called him. I found it simultaneously hilarious, vicious, and accurate. I encourage you and others to use it often.

                        Other suggestions:

                        Kapo Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller (my favorite)

                        Steve "Unwiped Asshole" Bannon

                        Empty G

                        Lauren Boobert

                        Big Boobie Bondi

                        Couchfucker Vance (not very original, but a good reminder)

                        Gold Digging Whore (the Propaganda
                        Secretary, I can't be bothered to learn her name)

                        Traitor also works for all of them. Nazi, too.

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                        • ? Guest

                          Copyright and patent laws should just go away entirely.

                          The amount of resources we spend enforcing them, just so we can spend more resources on the products themselves, could all be spent improving the lives of people who need it.

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                          That's a great plan for letting those mega corps steal from the little guy EVEN more than they already do

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                            I don't think this is a generational thing, personally, unless we're talking about the Boomers.

                            The Boomers took a vibrant, beautiful world and spent two generations driving it into this McDonaldized hellhole we live in, after reaping the benefits of the most prosperous economic period for workers in our history in the 1960's. They're still profiting.

                            The vast majority of the country only has one or two choices when shopping for necessities now, so I can't really blame them for the world that they were born into.

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                            Calling young people consumerist is just blaming them for circumstances of which they had no real control.

                            What? Have you heard the music they listen to? Gucci this, versace that. Have you seen the celebrities they look up to? Gold chains this, expensive tattoos that. Don't even get me started on the cars that cost more than my house.

                            Just try suggesting to them that delivery apps are scams or that they can be getting most of their digital entertainment for free and see what reactions you get.

                            No, they are proud consumers doing their part to keep the disparity in wealth growing.

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                              Advertising should just be illegal.

                              It gives an unfair advantage to those who already have an unfair advantage.

                              I recommend installing an addon called AdNauseam to block ads in addition to sending data that you've clicked them.

                              Please everyone. Try to understand that being a useful idiot is the norm these days. It's what's cool.

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                              Nice mention of AdNauseam, here is a link:

                              https://adnauseam.io/

                              It's based on uBlock Origin, so still state of the art in ad-blocking.

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                              • ? Guest

                                Calling young people consumerist is just blaming them for circumstances of which they had no real control.

                                What? Have you heard the music they listen to? Gucci this, versace that. Have you seen the celebrities they look up to? Gold chains this, expensive tattoos that. Don't even get me started on the cars that cost more than my house.

                                Just try suggesting to them that delivery apps are scams or that they can be getting most of their digital entertainment for free and see what reactions you get.

                                No, they are proud consumers doing their part to keep the disparity in wealth growing.

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                                Your point of view sounds a whole lot like the 2500 year-old history of blaming young people.

                                In reality, however, it's the Boomers who are largely responsible for the world we find ourselves in, not the 20 year-olds.

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                                  Calling young people consumerist is just blaming them for circumstances of which they had no real control.

                                  What? Have you heard the music they listen to? Gucci this, versace that. Have you seen the celebrities they look up to? Gold chains this, expensive tattoos that. Don't even get me started on the cars that cost more than my house.

                                  Just try suggesting to them that delivery apps are scams or that they can be getting most of their digital entertainment for free and see what reactions you get.

                                  No, they are proud consumers doing their part to keep the disparity in wealth growing.

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                                  lol you sound like such a boomer

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                                    It's heartbreaking, really.

                                    The UK is like a kid who just got his face covered in mud by bullies, and goes "aren't my friends wonderful for playing with me?".

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                                    Well see there is just the problem, TERF island needs more toxic masculinity so the men can be tough!

                                    /s

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                                      Summary

                                      Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

                                      The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

                                      Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

                                      Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

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                                      Well just to be fair - and i know people like shitting on Trump but hear me out - the complaints from workers against out-shoring labor to other countries has been very loud for many years.

                                      Everytime the newspaper reports "Company X has moved its factory to China" you can be sure that lots of people are gonna complain about it. But tariffs are the only thing that actually forces companies to put the factories back to the USA. Or do you have a better idea?

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                                      • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                        Still it was too difficult for you to express your own opinions. Too scary?

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                                        Arguing with you people is a waste of time.

                                        I'm going to ignore you now.

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                                          lol you sound like such a boomer

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                                          Yeah. That's rhetoric people like you have been fed to justify your consumerism.

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