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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

    User experience can be improved pretty easily.

    The important parts are already there.

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    Easier said than done. Reason after all these years it still hasn't been addressed.

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    • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

      Maybe people could read more?

      Nobody needs this endless "content" slop.

      For real people need to get a grip if they can't survive without it. They're addicted.

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      There's an incredible amount of educational and fun content on YouTube, just because you watch slop and it's associated recommendations, doesn't mean I or others do.

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      • ? Guest

        The people who set up the instances usually also are responsible for paying to keep them active.

        but it is going to be very difficult to convince people to pay for what YouTube gives away for free.

        I mean, they're already there. Have you tried using Peertube?

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        They are already there, and someone is paying for the storage and bandwidth for what's already there. Asking for random people to start pulling videos from YouTube and uploading them to someone else's server is going to very quickly make that server go away.

        And yes, I have tried Peertube. My experience is when I click a Peertube link from Lemmy, 9/10 it is a dead link.

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          They are already there, and someone is paying for the storage and bandwidth for what's already there. Asking for random people to start pulling videos from YouTube and uploading them to someone else's server is going to very quickly make that server go away.

          And yes, I have tried Peertube. My experience is when I click a Peertube link from Lemmy, 9/10 it is a dead link.

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          Gonna have to ignore you, bud.

          Arguing with incompetent people such as yourself is a waste of effort.

          Goodbye.

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            The people who set up the instances usually also are responsible for paying to keep them active.

            but it is going to be very difficult to convince people to pay for what YouTube gives away for free.

            I mean, they're already there. Have you tried using Peertube?

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            Yeah and it turns out that this isn’t working well. https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/5783 Video is an unsolved problem, it’s great people are working on it but we aren’t there yet. PeerTube is not a viable YouTube alternative.

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              The server itself has the option to turn that off or on. And most dont turn that on. Its off by default.

              Source: I host a peertube instance.

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              Does this mean users won't be able to see videos hosted on other platforms from your instance?

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                There's an incredible amount of educational and fun content on YouTube, just because you watch slop and it's associated recommendations, doesn't mean I or others do.

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                Try again to make yourself feel okay about heavily using a service that is happily allowing hate speech against gender identity. I don't have any subscriptions and I rarely watch youtube because I can fucking read.

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                  Yeah and it turns out that this isn’t working well. https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/5783 Video is an unsolved problem, it’s great people are working on it but we aren’t there yet. PeerTube is not a viable YouTube alternative.

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                  That's just the nature of the internet.

                  I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to block you now.

                  I've seen too much incompetence on your part, and I need to stop validating it with responses.

                  Goodbye.

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                  • ? Guest

                    We really should be working together to upload content from youtube to peertube instances.

                    Don't ask for permission. Just do it. Civilly disobey.

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                    I dont think its ok to just rip peoples content without their permission.

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                      I dont think its ok to just rip peoples content without their permission.

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                      That's fine.

                      Nobody is forcing you to do it.

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                      • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                        And I'm saying you're not paying for it, and that's the problem. Everyone got way too comfortable with getting "free" shit from corporations that would trample our rights the second it became convenient for them.

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                        If I'm using YT as cloud backup storage for hundreds of hours of video that is unlisted, unmonetized, how am I helping them trample rights?

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                        • kat@orbi.campK [email protected]

                          Easier said than done. Reason after all these years it still hasn't been addressed.

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                          I really don't think it is.

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                            They are already there, and someone is paying for the storage and bandwidth for what's already there. Asking for random people to start pulling videos from YouTube and uploading them to someone else's server is going to very quickly make that server go away.

                            And yes, I have tried Peertube. My experience is when I click a Peertube link from Lemmy, 9/10 it is a dead link.

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                            Newest version of lemmy fixed this quite well. Take a look: https://lemmy.world/post/27751672

                            Old lemmy broke a lot of activityhub stuff unfortunately.

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                              If I'm using YT as cloud backup storage for hundreds of hours of video that is unlisted, unmonetized, how am I helping them trample rights?

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                              Their ability to trample rights because of how much profit they make from horrible content is directly related to their ability to give you that space for free.

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                              • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                Some content lends itself well to written format. Lots of content does not.

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                                absolutely agree. i just wanted to point out that not everything has to be a video

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                                • quadraturesurfer@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

                                  It's not an easy answer, but the best way I've found so far is to use GrayJay.

                                  If I find that one of the content creators I follow on YouTube happen to post their content on any other platform, I switch my subscription to that platform.

                                  Besides YouTube they support Nebula, Twitch, Odysee, PeerTube, Dailymotion, Bitchute, Kick, BiliBili, Rumble, Patreon, and more.

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                                  Some of those, particularly Odysee and Rumble have much worse Nazis. They are the platforms of choice for British National Socialist Movement and Patriotic Alternative.

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                                    Not just catalog for viewing. What other platform can I use as cloud storage for video files for free? I have hundreds of hours of stuff uploaded there.

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                                    What other platform can I use as cloud storage for video files for free?

                                    None. YouTube included.

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                                      Does this mean users won't be able to see videos hosted on other platforms from your instance?

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                                      Thats a good question.

                                      No it still allows you to see their videos, it just does not create a copy. Its just a passthough.

                                      EX:

                                      • https://videos.abnormalbeings.space/w/k7oGP4hkGWMx2oJxpw6KUd which is being passed though
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                                      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                                        So, sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?

                                        Because a lot of the time, it's weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.

                                        The dude has been in the driver's seat for pretty much every major deterioration of Google/alphabet for years.

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                                        list of CEOs that suck?

                                        Isn't that simply called CEO list?

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                                        • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                          Try again to make yourself feel okay about heavily using a service that is happily allowing hate speech against gender identity. I don't have any subscriptions and I rarely watch youtube because I can fucking read.

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                                          You do you, if you want to read go ahead. You are just entirely missing the point and just assuming we all consume media in a way you preconceived in your "unbroken" brain.

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